[xSDMx]

I have the V-Moda Hexamove Pro coming tomorrow. They're modular and include an neckband and/or hooks for use.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09BTKNWGS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Whoa. These look perfect! Interested in your thoughts, definitely. Especially how well they pair between devices.

 

[erockg]

I appreciate that man. I actually just ordered the Single DD Hiby WH2. I figured I will give them a try. They are for the first time (to my knowledge) on Amazon. $149.00 with a 5% coupon. We shall see how they stack up in the price point. Thanks again about the MTW2, saves me from finding out on my own.

I've seen those. I'm always scared to buy Chi-fi these days. They also remind me of the Mifo buds. I swear all these Chi-fi manufacturers steal specs from one another. Not all, but you know. Many. Curious if they're amazing though. Do tell.

 

[erockg]

Whoa. These look perfect! Interested in your thoughts, definitely. Especially how well they pair between devices.

Gamsky did a basic review. Supposedly they sound good. I've always liked V-Moda. I'll post pics and a few impressions when I get them. I don't thing they have multi-pairing abilities. No ANC either.

 

[xSDMx]

Whoa. These look perfect! Interested in your thoughts, definitely. Especially how well they pair between devices.

Hmm. On second thought, the case looks massive and has no Qi wireless charging.

 

[xSDMx]

Not any with a charging case that I know of. There are a few I have owned or tried.
Fiio LCbt2 is really good man. Ldac, sufficient driving power, you do need a set of iems with this.
Shanling has a neckband style with damn near the same specs.
You can get for a massive discount now the 1more Triple Driver bt neckband which carries LDAC. I think I saw it for around 50 bucks recently and the sound is really quite good.
The most powerful I have owned is a very nice neckband set which needs to also be paired with some iems is the Ikko Arc Itb05. It is a beast (for bt neckbands) which has I believe 65 mw @32 ohms and aptx-hd. Really a great bt adapter.
I don't know if this type is what you are referring to but I have owned/own and tried these all and I have liked each one.

Great info. This is exactly what I was looking for. If you had to choose one neckband adapter, which would it be?

 

[erockg]

Hmm. On second thought, the case looks massive and has no Qi wireless charging.

Exactly. We'll see if the sound makes up for it. Not holding my breath... yet.

 

[jant71]

Gamsky did a basic review. Supposedly they sound good. I've always liked V-Moda. I'll post pics and a few impressions when I get them. I don't thing they have multi-pairing abilities. No ANC either.

Are you doing some push ups so you can lift the case when it gets there?

 

[erockg]

Are you doing some push ups so you can lift the case when it gets there?

I'm going to keep it in my front pocket for the ladies.

 

[HerrÄrmel]

I'm reading this thread for a long time now and it's so informative. Now I think I have to add something as well.
I always used wired iems but never found my favorites. I mostly used the Shure 535, but have Westone W20, Shure 215, Tinhifi T2pro, 1More triple and some others. Then with all this mask business for comuting, I tried out TWS: The Mifo o7. They were ok but never got a stable fit. then I found the Fiil T1 pro and I was quite happy even though it was a bit of a hassle with the chinese app and the english translation...especially as I use an iPhone. But with my older Android device, I activated all the features and EQed a bit and never had to use the app again.. But the sound signature was just great. I did a lot of comparsions to my wired IEMs and yes, the shure have better sound quality. But the T1 pro are just more fun to listen to.

But of course I wanted more...multipoint especially. And they they have to be as small as possible (I would NEVER wear Bose). But nothing really conviced me...was close to buy the az60 or jabra elite 7 pro...when I heard about fiil t2 pro.

I ordered them and got them after 8 days. Luckily, the english translation and support was already available on xda. And I have to say, I really like them. improved T1 pro in any way. The noice cancelling is a lot better and has 4 modes now. And they can change to the last used device by long pressing ...this is something I really missed with T1 pro.
Connection never failed since I have them... and sound is still great. Every genre somehow.

And everyday I find new improvements: the responsitivity of the touchbuttons is somehow much better.

The only draw-back: battery seems to be a bit weaker. might be the ANC... for me no problem at all.

I'm still curious for others experience...and comparsions... I really wonder how other TWS should be that much better... And I wonder why the T1 pro and T2 pro are not mentionned more often

but I still like to spend money on something more glamurous... but all the interesting stuff is too big in my opinion... and sending back is not possible here (CH).

So just my 50 cents

 

[Ceeluh7]

I've seen those. I'm always scared to buy Chi-fi these days. They also remind me of the Mifo buds. I swear all these Chi-fi manufacturers steal specs from one another. Not all, but you know. Many. Curious if they're amazing though. Do tell.

U know I will, there have been very good reviews on some audio sites. U r right they did use the shells of the Mifo 07. They use updated drivers and add better chipset and LDAC. Fingers crossed

 

[Ceeluh7]

Great info. This is exactly what I was looking for. If you had to choose one neckband adapter, which would it be?

Toss up.... The FIIO or the Ikko. They are really great. The ikko can push your iems a bit better however is more expensive. I'd prob say the Ikko is better.

 

[regancipher]

Some new reviews from me:

QCY T13
QCY T17
QCY T16
Tronsmart Onyx Prime
SoundPEATS Mini

Still haven't got round to writing up the Comfobuds 2 yet, hoping they will release some firmware to notch the treble a little.

Been testing the Elevoc Clear this week.....call quality is without question superb but they're very flaky...connection has dropped out at least twice a day for no apparent reason, even suddenly making scratching noises earlier. If I hadn't paid so much for them I'd crack them open and see what crappy chipset they're using

 

[Darkestred]

Hey All, I got the JBL Tour Pro + and the Ear Fun Free Pro 2 this last week and thought do a comparison with these buds:

Sennheiser Momentum 2
Echo Buds 2
Lypertek Tevi
Jabra Elite 85t

I apologize in advance for the ridiculously long review, I spent way to much time on it

Sound Quality

#1 JBL TP+ / Tevi
(I got tired of playing with the EQ of the JBL's, you could tune them for days, but they respond really well and have great bass response, wide soundstage, clear and detailed mids and highs. they get a little on the bright side, but I was able to get them to sound near identical to the tevi's with better bass.

#2 Momentum 2 (Really great sound all around, hesitated to put these in 2nd, but the EQ is limited and adjusting it really messes with the other freqs. mids by default are pushed forward, they can sound a bit cold to me w/o recessing the mids and they just aren't loud enough, but they are a really lovely tuned TWS.

#3 Ear Fun Free Pro 2 (Incredible bass, non-fatiguing highs with recessed mids. even though I rated them 3 in SQ, this is only due to recessed mids and lack of an eq. not as detailed in the highs and mid highs as it's competitors, but i'd imagine they can be tweaked with an EQ. I have a headphone playlist i've used for testing all my buds and these just made everything even the poorly mastered songs sound good.

#4 Echo Buds 2 ( lots of high mids, good bass and treble, takes some tuning, they sound pretty good but not as good sound as Gen 1 or the other buds on this list.)
#5 Jabra Elite 85t ( They sound better than the Air Pods Pro, EQ is lacking. They aren't unpleasant to listen to, just not exciting)

ANC
#1 Jabra Elite 85t (The Jabra's are till best in class. If you haven't tried these and love ANC, do it. They are only rivaled by the XM4's. I haven't heard the bose but they are def. both better than the Air Pods Pro especially with it's newest firmware)
#2 Momentum TW2
#3 Ear Fun Free Pro 2
#4 Echo Buds 2
#5 JBL Tour Pro +


Transparency/Ambient The Elite 85t and the Free Pro 2's both have excellent Transparency modes, the Ear Funs sound warmer, their mics capture better highs than the Elite 85t yet plug more of your ear canals so they don't feel as natural. The JBL's Transparency modes are Very good , but are just plagued with bugs. the Ambient modes shut off and on all the time and have lots of connection issues.

#1 Echo Buds 2
#2 Ear Fun Free Pro 2
#3 Jabra Elite 85t
#4 Momentum TW2
#5 JBL Tour Pro + (kept shutting off)

Phone Calls
#1 Jabra Elite 85t (multi-point, mute button, fully customizable call controls, excellent side tone)
#2 Ear Fun Free Pro 2/ Echo Buds 2 (calls sound great on both. Side tone on the EFFP2's is just Ambient mode, Echo Buds SideTone is fine but quieter also has mute)
#4 JBL TP +/ Lypertek Tevi (the JBL's do not have sidetone while on calls, that's a deal breaker for me, but the call quality was great and they have a mute button.
#5 Momentum TW2 ( Even after the update, the MTW 2's still have intermittent bad call quality. They sound quite good, but I experienced a few connection issues.
#6 Lypertek Tevi (they work fine, but everyone tells me I sound far away)


Summary

The Earfun Free Pro 2 are still my favorite to date. They do everything very well, really great sound, ultra portable, fast connection speed, super comfortable, excellent ambient mode and ANC, wireless charging etc. I got them with with a $25 off coupon for $60 total and even at $80 They are punching way above their weight class.

- Great Bass and sub bass, surprisingly controlled for how prominent it is.
- Some of the best Transparency and ANC in all price ranges. I noticed a very slight mid bass boost when ANC is on, but it's almost not noticeable.
- Lack some clarity in high mids, and mids are recessed, highs are clear detail is 8/10. Soundstage is wide open and not sibilant or painful at loud volumes.
- No app but Control everything except previous track can be controlled (3 second lag between Ambient, Normal and ANC modes)
- Battery lasts a good 6 hours, I switched between ANC and Ambient and they also have quick charge
- Can be used in Mono mode, but the Transparency/ANC modes will turn off if one is placed in the case.

These are simply a pair of earbuds every enthusiast should have in their collection and if you are looking for an all around workhorse that does everything well, this is the pair.

Jabra 85t -
- Although i'm heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem, the 85t is still the king of Productivity for me.
- Multipoint still has some growing pains, but it's near flawless. I use them at work on zoom, teams, phone calls and listening to books.
- Battery life isn't great, I get about 4-5 hours max
- EQ doesn't do much, sound quality is decent, but not great.
- ANC is some of the best out there and has different levels of adjustment.
- Great transparency mode.

Echo Buds 2 - I also use these weekly at work, they are a great all around bud. They do very well with calls, have very good transparency and ANC is above average. I feel like the battery lasts about 6 hours. They aren't the most comfortable and give me that plugged canal feel. The Controls are somewhat customizable and they have a basic EQ. Def. a great pair of buds for the money and functionality.

Sennheiser Momentum TW2-
- Excellent sounding TWS, that do many things very well
- Big and bulky after a few days I couldn't wear them anymore, they were very uncomfortable.
- Connectivity issues with ios and Mac OS, (they take about 3-5 seconds longer to connect than the Ear Funs and a few times the didn't connect at all.)
- Eqing them is effective but boosting the bass muddles the other freqs.
- Stock sound is really clean and detailed, pushed forward mids sound cold.
Too Expensive. For the Price tag ($200) If they Liberty 3 pro can out perform them in SQ at $150, they should be cheaper. I ended up returning these because they got to be unbearably painful after a couple days of use. also, I LOVED the touch tones, so smart. I wish every manufacturer would get on board with this.

JBL Tour Pro +
- Great Bass, Detail and Clarity, Incredibly EQable,
- Responsive touch controls and tons of features in the app.
- Excellent build quality, nice case, wireless charging, 8 hour battery.
- Plagued by Bugs
- No way to turn off the voice prompts or switch to tones like the MT2's and 85t's.
- No sidetone for calls
- Controls are customizable but akin to the Sony's XM3/XM4 you have to pick different profiles
- ANC is good but doesn't filter out as much low noise as it should. It's fine but nothing special.
- Ambient mode is very good, but also shut off multiple times during use in quiet environment. (It seemed like it was trying to filter out loud noises even though I was in a quiet environment. )

The left ear bud just decided not to connect to my phone one day and I had to put it in the case a couple times to get it to connect.
I paid $99 for them, which frankly is a steal, but they are going back.

The Tevi's are a my rock steady shower buds, the buttons on them are really hard to press, they aren't great for calls, there is no ANC or Transparency but with a little EQing they sound excellent. They are still one of the best sounding earbuds I have heard to date.

The JBL's are growing on me. At first it seems like mids and vocals are pushed back but its alleviated when the volume is increased and then when they are brought back down everything is good. So weird, or am i weird. These kind of remind me of a more natural sounding (with less bass) LP3. Havent had the phone issue yet.

The 6 big negatives on the L3Pro are:
1. It needs significant playing with the app to get it to sound to your liking and the treble might still be too aggressive/artificial for you. I managed to great sound though, perhaps the best of my (cheap) TWS collection, after a lot of fiddling. You may not or can't be bothered to fiddle.
2. The case is annoying to put the 'phones back into the case. You kind of get used to it though.
3. Battery life is average on ANC (below 6 hours for me), below average on calls (4hrs) and if you use LDAC+Talk then it is borderline
4. On multi-device connection, simple things work (like pause on one, play on another, dual connections) especially on two phones but complex ones fail especially on computers.
5. Occasional dropouts for me. Not enough to be annoying but not as stable as say Airpods Pro.
6. ANC acceptable but beaten by quite a few other TWS

They are keepers for me because the sound is great, the microphone quality pretty good especially outside, the controls have everything except for mute, the comfort is good, the security in my ears excellent because of the wings and all the rest is acceptable. Oh, and the LEDs to light up the case, are a brilliant idea. At the price I got them as an early buyer they are great value but maybe just average at retail price today.

I really really like the LP3. If they would fix the unnatural treble they would be really nice. A decent upgrade from the 2. Great bass, good details. Still thinnish and recessed mids. Do also get the cut-out which is sort of annoying. No issues with pausing and resume on computer / other devices.

 

[d3myz]

I was about to buy these and then checked some reviews and saw that these may have low volume issues? I don't know if this is correct, I owned the Senny cx400bt and those were okay in the volume category. I was about to post the new price on Amazon with this question... Do the mtw2 have decent headroom in volume after updates to the firmware?

Nope, they aren't loud at all.

 

[Ceeluh7]

Nope, they aren't loud at all.

I'm really really glad I asked... Nice