Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[The Gig]

Brand new member here- I've read a couple hundred pages in this thread already, but maybe someone can help.
I'm looking for a set of tws- $500usd range tops. Mostly just music on my S21 Ultra through Tidal and Qobuz. I listen mostly to electronic, like downtempo, chillstep, melodic dubstep, deep house type stuff. I like bass. Not over the top, but definitely hard hitting lows. I want to feel it.
I bought and returned the PI7. Sound great, but not really great for that genre. I didn't feel like they were worth the 400.
I'm considering the Devialet Gemini, Klipsch T5, Shure etc... if anyone has some experience with a set that deliver that type of experience in that music genre that'd be awesome. TIA

 

[nekonhime]

Brand new member here- I've read a couple hundred pages in this thread already, but maybe someone can help.
I'm looking for a set of tws- $500usd range tops. Mostly just music on my S21 Ultra through Tidal and Qobuz. I listen mostly to electronic, like downtempo, chillstep, melodic dubstep, deep house type stuff. I like bass. Not over the top, but definitely hard hitting lows. I want to feel it.
I bought and returned the PI7. Sound great, but not really great for that genre. I didn't feel like they were worth the 400.
I'm considering the Devialet Gemini, Klipsch T5, Shure etc... if anyone has some experience with a set that deliver that type of experience in that music genre that'd be awesome. TIA

M&D mw08 or sony wf1000xm4 ( always eq them first). Klipsch will fit for classical music more

 

[nekonhime]

Yes. Cool idea for a full featured sports and sleep bud but needs a good execution. Really flush buds with ANC and calls being good is tough as is fitting and removing them with that size and touch controls. They are $150 for 11.11 though. Any takers??


Also, I am selling my Jabra Elite 3. Figure I'd mention it here first before putting a FS thread and an ebay listings tomorrow. Remember they are the overachiever with some liking the call quality as much or better than the 7 models and they have aptX and with that don't sound any worse being $100 cheaper. Nicer shape for me and some others, they have no ambient switching niggles and the track controls do migrate for both L and R single side use.

Also, they don't even support aptX. Hard pass for me.

 

[The Gig]

M&D mw08 or sony wf1000xm4 ( always eq them first). Klipsch will fit for classical music more

I've read the MW 08 is underwhelming, and a little boomy and muddy in a couple places. I may try the Sony, but from my research they sound good but not amazing. Thank you for your suggestions!

 

[jsmiller58]

Should have my in laws mail those and the Panasonics to me, but then I would be stuck with them.

The in-laws?

 

[jant71]

Brand new member here- I've read a couple hundred pages in this thread already, but maybe someone can help.
I'm looking for a set of tws- $500usd range tops. Mostly just music on my S21 Ultra through Tidal and Qobuz. I listen mostly to electronic, like downtempo, chillstep, melodic dubstep, deep house type stuff. I like bass. Not over the top, but definitely hard hitting lows. I want to feel it.
I bought and returned the PI7. Sound great, but not really great for that genre. I didn't feel like they were worth the 400.
I'm considering the Devialet Gemini, Klipsch T5, Shure etc... if anyone has some experience with a set that deliver that type of experience in that music genre that'd be awesome. TIA

You could grab the KZ-AZ09 Pro and your choice of earphones that have the bass you are looking for. Most TWS have all the electronics jammed in there so they don't have open spaces like regular earphones to have bass you can feel. They also don't have as much power for the drivers to push more air for as much true feel. AZ09 Pro on high gain mode can do that more than many of the amps in TWS earphones.

 

[scubaphish]

Brand new member here- I've read a couple hundred pages in this thread already, but maybe someone can help.
I'm looking for a set of tws- $500usd range tops. Mostly just music on my S21 Ultra through Tidal and Qobuz. I listen mostly to electronic, like downtempo, chillstep, melodic dubstep, deep house type stuff. I like bass. Not over the top, but definitely hard hitting lows. I want to feel it.
I bought and returned the PI7. Sound great, but not really great for that genre. I didn't feel like they were worth the 400.
I'm considering the Devialet Gemini, Klipsch T5, Shure etc... if anyone has some experience with a set that deliver that type of experience in that music genre that'd be awesome. TIA

I love my Gemini and definitely recommend them. I think they sound amazing. Big sound, plenty of clarity & definition, and responsive eq (but I leave on default.).
Full disclosure there could be some driver flex; but I just leave anc and transparency on the low setting and I forget about it. Speaking of anc, surprisingly excellent.

I’m super tempted by the shure and would definitely suggest trying both

 

[The Gig]

I have been leaning hard toward these. I don't mind trying a few but don't like to buy/return. Just makes me feel weird- maybe it shouldn't though. I felt bad sending the PI7 back- I try to do my research first but damn there are so many options!

 

[nekonhime]

I've read the MW 08 is underwhelming, and a little boomy and muddy in a couple places. I may try the Sony, but from my research they sound good but not amazing. Thank you for your suggestions!

The mw08 is warm but not muddy like you are sitting in a bar.

 

[nekonhime]

I have been leaning hard toward these. I don't mind trying a few but don't like to buy/return. Just makes me feel weird- maybe it shouldn't though. I felt bad sending the PI7 back- I try to do my research first but damn there are so many options!

Tbh, there isn't wrong with buy and return, but if you can afford to do it or find a good deal then go ahead.

 

[quick1]

Oddly enough, I put on some Large Devialet tips and they feel like I'm wearing nothing. Stock tips were awful.

Stock tips= Damn near the worst thing I've experienced. I thought these things were $300 trash when I used them. Tried the Sennheiser tips and got the same experience. It wasn't until I installed SednaEarfit Crystals that the Gemini's revealed themselves to me. I've been through several sizes looking for the seal that's just enough to seal without causing discomfort. I normally use a Med to Large size. Sedna's come in 1/2 sizes and I started at ML. I'm now down to MS and they still seal great with no losses. They fit deeper in the ear than anything that I've tried and they also have the largest opening area to the ear. That could be because they are originally designed for the Galaxy Buds Pro which has a very shallow insertion depth.

Just delivered today- Final Type E
Right now I've got Final Type E's on them in size Med, and they are sealing. The rubber/ silicone material is more flexible than the Crystal's. They don't fit as deep into the ear as the Crystal's and they don't have as large of an opening to the ear. They seem to have a deeper bass- sub bass, but everything else takes a SLIGHT backseat to me.
Vocals are a touch further back, instrument details are slightly less noticeable and the highs are blended more. The Crystal's seem to give me a little more open, spacious presentation, but I don't do any strictly instrumental listening. I'd rate the Final Type E's a VERY CLOSE SECOND BEST for me so far and that could change with more listening.
I guess it depends on what you want, a slightly more laid back presentation with more bass- sub bass, or a more immediate presentation with less bass. Granted the bass with the Crystals isn't far off the Type E's. Pretty sure if I was going to watch a movie I'd use the Type E's for when things get blown up and I don't want on screen actors in my face.

Tried-
1. AZLA SednaEarfit Crystal. (Meant for Galaxy Buds Pro, have a deeper insertion depth) Tried ML, M, MS https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097G272CG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
2. Final Type E. Size Med https://www.mtmtaudio.com/products/...tooth-earphone-2-pairs?variant=32559994830908
3. Comply True Grip Pro. Size Large tried. Decent isolation. Good bass https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W45LHBT?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
CharJenPro Memory Foam Ear Tips: Med and Large tried. Ok isolation. Decent bass, not much for details, overall laidback somewhat muted sound. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0925MD1ZR?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
FIIL T1XS supplied tips. Horrible isolation. Decent details but midrange is somewhat lost. Sizes Med- large tried.
Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless tips. Med, Large tried. Horrible sound isolation. Where my bass go?
Samsung Bud Pro tips: Med and Large sizes tried. No isolation. No bass. Not good for mids either. Good details.

Next up, Acoustune AET07

 

[BooleanBones]

I owned the xm4 and I own the AZ60. Personally I feel the AZ60 is much better. The anc is very close, I don't think the xm4 is miles ahead at all. Sound wise I'd take the AZ60's any day. The AZ60 have a nice musical sound as well and better bass. I founf the xm4 to be very lacking in that dept. I don't know if this helps at all because everyone is different but I did not like the xm4's at all. Something was missing in the sound to me.i liked the fit, had a great seal and eq'd them the best I could but something was missing. I will say that I did have to eq the AZ60 a bit as well, I went with different tips then stock as well

I think from what I have seen so far, the AZ60 mics for calls are much better as well. For me, the Sony's took a big turn for the better in SQ when I switched to Final Type-E TWS tips. They were about to be sent back until that point. Really excited to try out the AZ60s though. The never ending quest for SQ

 

[BooleanBones]

The in-laws?

Yeah, they live in Tokyo. I haven't been over there the last couple years to visit due to Covid though, otherwise I would snag them myself.

 

[assassin10000]

Brand new member here- I've read a couple hundred pages in this thread already, but maybe someone can help.
I'm looking for a set of tws- $500usd range tops. Mostly just music on my S21 Ultra through Tidal and Qobuz. I listen mostly to electronic, like downtempo, chillstep, melodic dubstep, deep house type stuff. I like bass. Not over the top, but definitely hard hitting lows. I want to feel it.
I bought and returned the PI7. Sound great, but not really great for that genre. I didn't feel like they were worth the 400.
I'm considering the Devialet Gemini, Klipsch T5, Shure etc... if anyone has some experience with a set that deliver that type of experience in that music genre that'd be awesome. TIA

The new Fiio UTWS5 and your choice of IEM.

 

[The Gig]

The new Fiio UTWS5 and your choice of IEM.

Starting to look at this as an option rather than all in one buds, but now I have a whole new set of research!!!!! I don't know much about which IEMs to look at, time to read up