Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[erockg]

Received the Black version of the AZ60s from Amazon Japan a short while ago. I have to say, sooooo much better than the 70s in my opinion. They fit like a glove and the ANC is great. Love the deeper bass. Case is much smaller. I do wish they had wireless charging and a pause sensor. All that said, so far, these are a great upgrade. Have to find some serious time for them in my rotation.

 

[bladefd]

May have to give these a try--

https://www.shure.com/en-US/product...XzcC708eOm78Psy9spyPjZm0yDyHJUUBoCsAIQAvD_BwE

Hmm, they seem too big tbh.. Shaped like the Sony xm3, which were difficult to use while lying down or on the side.

 

[DigDub]

Received the Black version of the AZ60s from Amazon Japan a short while ago. I have to say, sooooo much better than the 70s in my opinion. They fit like a glove and the ANC is great. Love the deeper bass. Case is much smaller. I do wish they had wireless charging and a pause sensor. All that said, so far, these are a great upgrade. Have to find some serious time for them in my rotation.

They require some burn in time. They sound a bit harsh out of the box, and settle down after about an hour.

 

[scottsays]

Shure Aonic Free look very good---amazon has same day delivery.

 

[Caipirina]

No one bothered to check out the KZ VX10?
1DD+4BA per side... or is everyone just overwhelmed by how much similar stuff they keep churning out?
(the wired ZEX with 'electrostatic' blah blah sound at least somewhat new, though I have yet to find some more info on the alleged electrostatic ... )

 

[Tommy C]

No one bothered to check out the KZ VX10?
1DD+4BA per side... or is everyone just overwhelmed by how much similar stuff they keep churning out?
(the wired ZEX with 'electrostatic' blah blah sound at least somewhat new, though I have yet to find some more info on the alleged electrostatic ... )

I’m intrigued with their setup but a. battery life is only 4 hours which in real life might be closer to 3 and change and b. they probably don’t have app, ambient or any other features and even at their MSRP it will be almost an immediate pass for me.
KZ used to be interesting years ago when they had super cheap stuff that sounded decent but since then they have been releasing and rebranding their own products including their own CCA sub-brand and it just feels like they are throwing stuff on the wall nowadays to see if it sticks.

 

[quick1]

Hmm, they seem too big tbh..

No kidding, it looks like a dung beetle is sitting on your ear. Maybe they put a slimmed down version of HAL 9000 in there? The good thing is that it looks like there's plenty of room for drivers and all kinds of electronic features. With all that room the bass and sub bass should be fantastic if not the best out there for tws. Like a sub woofer to a rattling license plate, they should chatter your gold or platinum grills out of your mouth if the song goes that low. On the other hand part of wanting a tws set is freedom of movement while on the go, just how big is the case to store and charge those in? Is a man bag going to be required lol
Sorry, in a weird mood today.

 

[BooleanBones]

Received the Black version of the AZ60s from Amazon Japan a short while ago. I have to say, sooooo much better than the 70s in my opinion. They fit like a glove and the ANC is great. Love the deeper bass. Case is much smaller. I do wish they had wireless charging and a pause sensor. All that said, so far, these are a great upgrade. Have to find some serious time for them in my rotation.

Nice. I have been holding out for the black ones to be available domestically. Feedback on them sound good so far Keep us updated.

 

[erockg]

Hey, I thought the same thing. Even put it in writing here. But man, you put them in and crank some good tunes... they truly shine. They fit way better than the XM3. I work from home, so they aren't my walk around town buds. Although, I did take them on a 2 mile walk and had zero issues, just completely immersed in the music. I put some double flange Etymotic tips on them and they seal up perfect. New Mastodon is going to make my head explode. News at 11.

 

[erockg]

Nice. I have been holding out for the black ones to be available domestically. Feedback on them sound good so far Keep us updated.

I figured Amazon Japan was good, so took a shot. They don't charge tax, so with shipping it almost cost the same. So far so good. Small, light, ANC is great. Used them last night to watch Foundation. Going to have to flip some others to slot these in the lineup

 

[dweaver]

See the WF-1000XM4 on sale in Canada for $350. But I am still leaning toward the AZ60. I keep reading reviews where they say the Sony are more musical. But I struggle because I find the 1000XM3 to dark and the XM4 is supposed to be even darker sounding. So how does that translate to more musical?

Sony holds the edge is features and ANC but aside from that the AZ60 seems to offer what I think would be a better music experience.

Has anyone tried the AZ60 in wind? Technics claims they have resolved wind issues which is a HUGE thing for me as I live in a place with lots of wind. So I want a headphone that blocks the wind when listening to music and when on the phone.

I have the AZ70 and find it is OK with wind when listening to music but generally have to disable ANC in anything above low wind level or the wind messes with the mics. Still it is better then the WF-1000XM3. I also have the Samsung Buds Pro which handles wind very well but has less effective ANC.

 

[erockg]

See the WF-1000XM4 on sale in Canada for $350. But I am still leaning toward the AZ60. I keep reading reviews where they say the Sony are more musical. But I struggle because I find the 1000XM3 to dark and the XM4 is supposed to be even darker sounding. So how does that translate to more musical?

Sony holds the edge is features and ANC but aside from that the AZ60 seems to offer what I think would be a better music experience.

Has anyone tried the AZ60 in wind? Technics claims they have resolved wind issues which is a HUGE thing for me as I live in a place with lots of wind. So I want a headphone that blocks the wind when listening to music and when on the phone.

I have the AZ70 and find it is OK with wind when listening to music but generally have to disable ANC in anything above low wind level or the wind messes with the mics. Still it is better then the WF-1000XM3. I also have the Samsung Buds Pro which handles wind very well but has less effective ANC.

I'm actually going back and forth with the XM4 and AZ60s today. I prefer the sound of the AZ60. ANC is great on both. I've never had good luck with wind and ANC headphones, so I always turn off the ANC. But we don't have gusty winds here in Los Angeles often. AZ60 buds are a bit smaller than the XM4. Sony has a few other features that for me, might sway one who had neither - wireless charging and auto pause when you take the buds out. Plus a slew of other tech features. Don't get me wrong, the Technics are great. It was only a matter of time before Sony and Technics nailed it. Both of these are great choice, with the AZ60 having an edge for music. I'm sure the next gen of these will be even better.

 

[assassin10000]

See the WF-1000XM4 on sale in Canada for $350. But I am still leaning toward the AZ60. I keep reading reviews where they say the Sony are more musical. But I struggle because I find the 1000XM3 to dark and the XM4 is supposed to be even darker sounding. So how does that translate to more musical?

Sony holds the edge is features and ANC but aside from that the AZ60 seems to offer what I think would be a better music experience.

Has anyone tried the AZ60 in wind? Technics claims they have resolved wind issues which is a HUGE thing for me as I live in a place with lots of wind. So I want a headphone that blocks the wind when listening to music and when on the phone.

I have the AZ70 and find it is OK with wind when listening to music but generally have to disable ANC in anything above low wind level or the wind messes with the mics. Still it is better then the WF-1000XM3. I also have the Samsung Buds Pro which handles wind very well but has less effective ANC.

The Sony EQ for the XM4 is pretty effective. I found it slightly too dark without it but with EQ they're very good. I prefer an Ety like DF neutral sound signature.

No EQ

EQ:

Settings on measurement:

If you want a more harman like signature just move the bass up.

 

[BooleanBones]

I figured Amazon Japan was good, so took a shot. They don't charge tax, so with shipping it almost cost the same. So far so good. Small, light, ANC is great. Used them last night to watch Foundation. Going to have to flip some others to slot these in the lineup

I have been hooked on Foundation as well. You are like my long lost brother

 

[erockg]

I have been hooked on Foundation as well. You are like my long lost brother

HAHAHAHA. So true! Great episode this week .