Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Dec 12, 2019 at 12:56 PM Post #17,147 of 62,447
I had the chance to test the Shure 846 (once priced at $1000) and the Creative Outlier Air... the mids and voices are so thick and throaty that it made the MPOW M5 mids sound thin.
Not to mention the SSK - which now sounds sharp next these.
I'm thinking if there is a reference headphone to "good sound" and if we're deviating from thick throaty mids in the search of sonic details..
 
Dec 12, 2019 at 1:53 PM Post #17,150 of 62,447
Do find the T1X a bit on the "hot" side? Maybe I just need to get used to the sound sig. (Listening from an iPhone 7)
I know what you mean. Maybe a touch, especially after coming from the ultra-smooth L2P. But they really seem to have smoothed out after some burn-in. I really can’t recommend them highly enough, and I paid $40 for mine.
 
Dec 12, 2019 at 1:55 PM Post #17,151 of 62,447
I know what you mean. Maybe a touch, especially after coming from the ultra-smooth L2P. But they really seem to have smoothed out after some burn-in. I really can’t recommend them highly enough, and I paid $40 for mine.
Thanks!!! Yeah, I was so excited I haven't even burned them in yet. Took them straight out of the box, charged them a bit, and off to the gym.
 
Dec 12, 2019 at 2:30 PM Post #17,154 of 62,447
Ok. I just wrote a post for ya.

Oh btw I did end up comparing the T1Xs to the Tevis. Imo Tevis still have a nicer top end and a wider stage, but honestly I like the T1Xs more at this point. You were right about just the fullness in the sound that becomes apparent particularly after a healthy burn in period. Also the bass is no contest. While the T1Xs are not overpowering, they have a great punch and tightness in the bass. Detail retrieval still goes w a slight edge to the Tevis, but it’s super close. I think I’m obsessed w cymbals, but still think the Tevis do the best job w them right now in the TWS space lolll.
 
Dec 12, 2019 at 2:35 PM Post #17,155 of 62,447
Ok. Be patient with me here, i'm super excited about these so bear with the intensity.

Nural NTO1A Impressions. I still have a lot of time I need to spend with these and i'm sure they will need some burn in, but after an evening and today as I listen to them writing here's what I think.

The word that comes to mind is Silky, so far i'm in love, It's really just fun as hell to listen to these. The highs don't sound like anything i've ever heard. they are super detailed but shimmery, the cymbals sound like actual real cymbals :astonished:. It's pretty awesome. however, Overall they seem a little....hmm... not muddy, but they aren't tight as crisp and sharp like the FIIL, which after going back and forth the FIIL can be a little on the bright side at times.
the NT01A's sound quality and sound stage is EXCELLENT. I guess looser and smooth, but very detailed and well, they are almost perfect.

Bass is full and punchy, but not overbearing, awesome mids and highs, I dunno. I think they are pretty incredible, I'd like a little more bass, more like that sub rumble you get from the L2pro, but I'm not even mad, They don't sound like anything I've listened to, so i'm kind of lost for words. They def. sound really full and immersive.

Controls are fine. I don't like the Qualcomm chipsets or their onboard voices etc. the NT01A is almost identical to the T5/M5's onboard voice assistant. Once i got used to the buttons they were easy to use, but I don't like having the volume on only one side. Other than that pairing, resetting, firmware upgrading etc. super easy. They connect really quickly and the range is excellent. I took the wings off, they seem cheap and useless. Also, I guess I misread because I didn't' get spinfits with these (sadface) The stock eartips are nice, well made wide boar tips, but the didn't sound as good to me as the tips that come with the FIIL that sit really closely to the port or the Auvio's which is what i'm currently using. These are a LONG TWS' and insert deeply, which I have no issues with. Love the color, volume is little low for me, I am listening to the Fear Inoculum album by TOOL and 2 notches down from Max and I can go to max with no issue, when it gets busy I bump it down 3 or 4. I think these really excel for music that has more space it. When it get busy, the still sound great, but they don't perform as well with loud, hard, busy music as they do with more chill stuff where there lots of room for them to breathe and really shine.

I'm not a music scientist, but i'd say there's a bit too much low midrange that makes the distorted guitars sound a touch sluggish? and the low bass hangs around a little longer than it should, but I've never heard a TWS' that represented the sound of cymbals as well as these do. It's seriously uncanny.


Oh I almost forgot. No hiss, or high noise floor that I can tell, but then again I never heard one on my L2pros, so it could just be my tinnitus blocking it out, but I did test them with some 0 bit tracks with the volume all the way up and I didn't hear anything. Also on that now, I ran the 20hz to 20khz and I'll be damned if these things didn't sound awesome the whole way up and down.

Final Thoughts I'm going to say it. This is the best TWS' I've heard to date. it's the only one I've heard that gives me beautiful highs and clarity, with great and I mean Great mids and plenty of bass. What i'm noticing is the Tom's and Open snare (a Snare drum with the catch off) don't decay as fast as I'd like. but my final thought is this. These are excellent especially for the money, i'd take these over the MW07, AirPods, XM3, L2pro all day long.

HARD 4.85/5 for the price point i'd like to see wireless charging on the case, a better button, that thing is hard to open. Also, better wings and the buttons are ok, but could be improved. I'm definitely going to check out the N6 when it comes out. To all you dudes, @Luchyres and others, who raved like lunatics about these all those months ago when I joined this thread, I'm on the Nuarl train. Every song I throw at these that just impress and I have already noticed after about 4-5 hours they are sounding better in the low end.
 
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Dec 12, 2019 at 2:46 PM Post #17,156 of 62,447
Ok. Be patient with me here, i'm super excited about these so bear with the intensity.

Nural NTO1A Impressions. I still have a lot of time I need to spend with these and i'm sure they will need some burn in, but after an evening and today as I listen to them writing here's what I think.

The word that comes to mind is Silky, so far i'm in love, It's really just fun as hell to listen to these. The highs don't sound like anything i've ever heard. they are super detailed but shimmery, the cymbals sound like actual real cymbals :astonished:. It's pretty awesome. however, Overall they seem a little....hmm... not muddy, but they aren't tight as crisp and sharp like the FIIL, which after going back and forth the FIIL can be a little on the bright side at times.
the NT01A's sound quality and sound stage is EXCELLENT. I guess looser and smooth, but very detailed and well, they are almost perfect.

Bass is full and punchy, but not overbearing, awesome mids and highs, I dunno. I think they are pretty incredible, I'd like a little more bass, more like that sub rumble you get from the L2pro, but I'm not even mad, They don't sound like anything I've listened to, so i'm kind of lost for words. They def. sound really full and immersive.

Controls are fine. I don't like the Qualcomm chipsets or their onboard voices etc. the NT01A is almost identical to the T5/M5's onboard voice assistant. Once i got used to the buttons they were easy to use, but I don't like having the volume on only one side. Other than that pairing, resetting, firmware upgrading etc. super easy. They connect really quickly and the range is excellent. I took the wings off, they seem cheap and useless. Also, I guess I misread because I didn't' get spinfits with these (sadface) The stock eartips are nice, well made wide boar tips, but the didn't sound as good to me as the tips that come with the FIIL that sit really closely to the port or the Auvio's which is what i'm currently using. These are a LONG TWS' and insert deeply, which I have no issues with. Love the color, volume is little low for me, I am listening to the Fear Inoculum album by TOOL and 2 notches down from Max and I can go to max with no issue, when it gets busy I bump it down 3 or 4. I think these really excel for music that has more space it. When it get busy, the still sound great, but they don't perform as well with loud, hard, busy music as they do with more chill stuff where there lots of room for them to breathe and really shine.

I'm not a music scientist, but i'd say there's a bit too much low midrange that makes the distorted guitars sound a touch sluggish? and the low bass hangs around a little longer than it should, but I've never heard a TWS' that represented the sound of cymbals as well as these do. It's seriously uncanny.


Oh I almost forgot. No hiss, or high noise floor that I can tell, but then again I never heard one on my L2pros, so it could just be my tinnitus blocking it out, but I did test them with some 0 bit tracks with the volume all the way up and I didn't hear anything. Also on that now, I ran the 20hz to 20khz and I'll be damned if these things didn't sound awesome the whole way up and down.

Final Thoughts I'm going to say it. This is the best TWS' I've heard to date. it's the only one I've heard that gives me beautiful highs and clarity, with great and I mean Great mids and plenty of bass. What i'm noticing is the Tom's and Open snare (a Snare drum with the catch off) don't decay as fast as I'd like. but my final thought is this. These are excellent especially for the money, i'd take these over the MW07, AirPods, XM3, L2pro all day long.

HARD 4.85/5 for the price point i'd like to see wireless charging on the case, a better button, that thing is hard to open. Also, better wings and the buttons are ok, but could be improved. I'm definitely going to check out the N6 when it comes out. To all you dudes, who raved like lunatics about these all those months ago when I joined this thread, I'm on the Nuarl train. Every song I throw at these that just impress and I have already noticed after about 4-5 hours they are sounding better in the low end.

Thank you for sharing!

I think I know what you mean re: sluggishness - though I've mentally chalked it up to whatever they have to do re: resonance to get the bass they do out of the 6mm driver - and that perhaps it affects the decay.

I'm very glad you tried them, and thank you for the write-up! It looks like the N6 Pro is about to be out in 3 days or so..... if you have money burning a whole in your pocket.... :grinning: :D

Choo, Nuarl Train, Choo!
 
Dec 12, 2019 at 2:50 PM Post #17,158 of 62,447
Thank you for sharing!

I think I know what you mean re: sluggishness - though I've mentally chalked it up to whatever they have to do re: resonance to get the bass they do out of the 6mm driver - and that perhaps it affects the decay.

I'm very glad you tried them, and thank you for the write-up! It looks like the N6 Pro is about to be out in 3 days or so..... if you have money burning a whole in your pocket.... :grinning: :D

Choo, Nuarl Train, Choo!
:joy::joy: That's a great way to describe it, resonance, but it really adds to the warmth. I can hear similarities in these with the 1more stylish. just a powerful well built TWS' except the stylish has to be seriously eq'd IMO to sound great.
 
Dec 12, 2019 at 2:50 PM Post #17,159 of 62,447
@Luchyres have you notice the sound spreading with burn in out with the Nurals? I feel like they are getting wider and more responsive.

I def wasn't paying enough attention when I first got them - but all of my comparisons (XM3, L2P, etc.) were done after they would have had a pretty long time to burn in. I'm also very pleased with the call quality given the simplicity of the tech/mic setup - is the NT01A good for calls in your experience as well?

None of the other TWS I've tried have I been as carried away with the music as the NT01AX (and as non-fatigued). If you have an app you like, they also EQ very well if you want to manipulate them.
 
Dec 12, 2019 at 2:54 PM Post #17,160 of 62,447
I def wasn't paying enough attention when I first got them - but all of my comparisons (XM3, L2P, etc.) were done after they would have had a pretty long time to burn in. I'm also very pleased with the call quality given the simplicity of the tech/mic setup - is the NT01A good for calls in your experience as well?

None of the other TWS I've tried have I been as carried away with the music as the NT01AX (and as non-fatigued). If you have an app you like, they also EQ very well if you want to manipulate them.
I have used them for two calls, no complaints, they also seem to work well with iOS. Siri is quick and responsive. I used the app and tried to upgrad the firmware, but they were already fully updated. The app on iOS is kind of a p.o.s. but hey, Love having a firmware upgrade option. And how about the packaging? I didn't even mention how cool it is. that color, that HUGE instruction pamphlet like reading a scroll. LOL. Man, after all my toil and labors listening and testing chi-fi's TWS' I feel like this is just a supreme reward! Seriously, every song sounds great, even the ones I know don't sound that good. What the hell is in these?
 
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