Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[mikp]

Think ive seen 3-4 crowdfunds that claim to use the QCC3026, but not found anyone on ali,jd or taobao yet. Looks like its a long wait for the new qualcomm chips to be used.

 

[ri_toast]

What makes the Jabra line good besides sound quality are one: connection stability, even with bt4.1 it's solid. two: button function, really useful and intuitive.
one detractor, easily fixed is when you turn them on is a connection only to the right monitor. the fix is insert the left monitor first - then take the right from the base unit and insert it. not a big deal. if you do get the right side only just insert them back into the case and start over. Basically off/on.
there's very little use for the app once the unit is setup. On my version of android I got the app and also had to add the service app. Meaning the service starts when the headphones turn on, the app is solid and configuration is easy.

Sound quality is NOT wired iem levels but forget the hardware and enjoying the music. quality isn't off the table, so to speak.

 

[webvan]

Haven't tried the 65T but the Jabra Elite Sport do indeed have great sound quality, especially with the foam tips. I honestly have a hard time telling them apart from my quad driver IEMs...They are fragile though and are known to lose volume in the right ear (the left ear too but less frequently) for no good reason. Sweat might be an issue of course but then they are designed for sport. The other problem is that they are very "thumping" (air compressed in the ear canal) with the foam tips when running, it's quite distracting. I wonder if the 65T are any better in that respect. Has anyone here done direct comparisons between the Jabra Elite Sport and the 65T models ?

 

[david8613]

Haven't tried the 65T but the Jabra Elite Sport do indeed have great sound quality, especially with the foam tips. I honestly have a hard time telling them apart from my quad driver IEMs...They are fragile though and are known to lose volume in the right ear (the left ear too but less frequently) for no good reason. Sweat might be an issue of course but then they are designed for sport. The other problem is that they are very "thumping" (air compressed in the ear canal) with the foam tips when running, it's quite distracting. I wonder if the 65T are any better in that respect. Has anyone here done direct comparisons between the Jabra Elite Sport and the 65T models ?

I have and use both on a daily basis, the 65t elite active fit is nice and light, sound is great, connection is great, battery is great, controls are good especially having volume. Things I dont like, case does not lock so if you drop it buds go flying in different directions this happened twice already luckily I was indoors when this happened. Material and shape of case is very slippery, it is nice and small though, coaching feature is a joke compared to elite sport. Jabra elite sport sound is nice too, although I think the bass slams harder than the 65t elite active, but the active goes a little deeper in bass I feel. The elite sport is bulkier and heavier in ear. it's not bad, but they really lock in your ears better with the fins than 65t. Elite sport is a heavy duty truewireless. Elite sport Controls work well, but buttons are small you kind have to use your fingernail to activate buttons. the 65t you can use finger tip to press. Case is nicer on the elite sport, its lid spring loaded, if I drop it buds are not coming out. It also has heart rate monitor, and much better coach and app for gym use. Connection is solid. I like both that's why I have both. I sold my Samsung iconx 2018, I really loved all the features they had, especially the touch controls, the connection was great, sound quality was very good, but a step down from the above units. It was clear but sterile, flat, not warm, bass was weaker, I am waiting to see what samsung comes out with for 2019.

 

[webvan]

Thanks for the feedback and comparison very interesting ! Unfortunately I can't get the HR monitor of the JES to work properly when I'm running, it has the dreaded cadence lock problem (it quickly uses my foot cadence as my HR) which is too bad since the app indeed has a lot to offer, even more than the super expensive Garmin watches. Do you run with them, if yes do you experience the "thump" when using the foam tips ? The silicone tips just don't provide a good enough seal for me and the bass is badly lacking...but there is no "thump". Since you say the JES lock better, does it mean you find yourself adjusting your 65T more (the active is probably better than the non-active with it's rubbery finish) ?

 

[david8613]

I dont like foam tips very much, your right they do cause the "thump" but I also think foams change the sound too much, plus they get nasty, and get destroyed too fast. I Iike using silicone tips. For jabra elite sport I put some spare tips that I had laying around nothing really special and they worked great. I had both jabra 65t elite normal version and active version. The active coating is slightly different from the normal 65t but not that much, they both are still slippery in hand, in ear they are both fine, the 65t active can get slightly lose with extreme sweat, but for the most part they stay in ear just fine, I use stock large tips on the jabra elite active. jabra elite sport will not get loose they really lock in your ears. Heart rate is not perfectly accurate but close enough, I do use them both for running on treadmill and weight training. Cant go wrong with either.

 

[webvan]

Thanks, must say I'm tempted to give the 65t a try to see if I can get the good ctisp sound of the JES+Foam (the stock foam tips with their coating seem stronger than Comply tips) without the "thump" and possibly better noise isolation.

Is there any reason for you to pick one over the other on a given day?

 

[david8613]

the 2 things thing the Jabra 65t elite active has over the Jabra sport is battery life and comfort, active can go more than 5 hours and is more comfortable your forget you have them on, sport is around 4 and slightly bulkier in ear, you always know they are in your ears. everything else its a give and take between the 2. I would go with the 65t elite active since it is newer and fits more of the normal user, but if your an extreme athlete, or gym rat the sport elite being more heavy duty, more water proof more app features for gym would be better.

 

[webvan]

Makes sense, thanks, I find the JES reasonable comfortable so the only reason I'd want to "upgrade" is if there is no "thud" when running with the 65T while maintaining a good seal. With the JES it's either the stock foam for a good seal/sound+thud or poor seal/sound and no thud. Based on reviews it does seem you still get a bit of a "thud" with the 65T but it must depend on people. I did try a bunch of alternative silicone tips with the JES, like the SpinFit CP100 in various sizeq but they don't really help with the seal/sound unfortunately and they're also a bit "long" to fit well in the case.

 

[nbacha]

MW07 has gone back, just found it tiring to listen to at anything besides low volumes which doesn't cut it walking around the street.
Hoping the 65Ts will give me some good balance

 

[srinivasvignesh]

What would be a good choice if the primary use case would to listen to podcasts, good battery life, acceptable, if not zero video lag (for the occasional video)? Multiple backup charges from the case would be good to have. Sound quality does not need to be great, since podcasts and audiobooks would be the use case 80 percent of the time. The other 20% netflix, and I do not want voice lag (sound does not need to be great). An occasional drop out would be tolerable as well.

What fits the bill?

 

[david8613]

any true wireless that support ldac yet?

 

[joshnor713]

any true wireless that support ldac yet?

Don't think so, just know of a couple that support aptX.

Am expecting that v2 of the WF-1000X would bring it, but no word yet.

 

[nbacha]

I'm tempted to wait for the sennheisers and the ATH-CKR7TW
Sol Republic Amp Airs are going for 50 on their own UK site......anyone think it's worth it to hold me until these new ones come out or are they complete garbage?

 

[howdy]

I'm tempted to wait for the sennheisers and the ATH-CKR7TW
Sol Republic Amp Airs are going for 50 on their own UK site......anyone think it's worth it to hold me until these new ones come out or are they complete garbage?

Sennheiser is coming next month, can't wait to pick up a pair.