Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[Soreniglio]

Well i got the lenovo yesterday,and i have only listened to it for a couple of hours.
The first thing that got my attention was that it looks identical to the the tranya T3,except the control button. The case is also identical except that the lid is not transparen like the Tranya,and a different color to the case.
The reviewer that said he could not control anything but play pause must of had a faulty one or a version 1 or something,cause my pair can control both track skipping and volume.

Sound wise it it almost identical to Tranya (measured them both) except that Lenovo has less elevated bass,which to me sound more natural for the majority of my music.
So Lenovo was a big suprise to me and a easy recomendation for the money

So you'd say they are a more balanced version of the Tranya T3? I might take a dive for the money

 

[cacio]

just want to leave my experience with the KZ T1 TWS.

This is the worst UX I've ever had.
- The case is really heavy and opens extremely bad. I ripped the top part out.
- the case has L/R bud position switched, so you pick the right earbud from the left side of the case.
- the headphones feel and look cheap with the glossy finish. Should be matte plastic like Tiso i5
- Volume control is ****ed up, goes from medium to loud without in-between
- touch controll could be tuned better
- stupid old tones like from BT 4.0 China speaker
- Amplifier runs always 100% , the DAC output volume changes. Means more distribution on lower volume

Now the good parts:

- They are comfortable to wear.
- They sound extremely good with only AAC 256kbit . Like world's better than QCY T2C or Tiso i5. Better than KZ ZSN in good DAC. I used the T1 right out of the box! Normally I let most headphones to burn in couple of ours (cuz usually only the expensive audio is burned in already inside the factory) I have them for 2 days now and already want to keep those as dailys despite of the horrible UX around the earphones itself. SQ is just really nice.

The overall tune is more balanced than usual from KZ. I like it. The soundstage is not big, but the separation is awesome and makes up for that in good masters. I do relisten old songs and hear new tones . Such athmosphare in good masters. Really lively 3D space, even if not big. Overall they let some details through which I didn't knew before with my Takstar Pro 82 over head monitors and ES9018KM2 DAC.

You have really the feeling that they are limited by AAC 256kbit. Maybe I could improve that with custom Android ROMs , but right now they don't show SBC HD if the device supports AAC or better.

Overall I will rip the case apart and cut the housings out and replace left and right. So annoying . And this is nothing you would have to ask from public beta feedback. This is obviouse if you try to use it once!

 

[CardigdanWalk]

just want to leave my experience with the KZ T1 TWS.

This is the worst UX I've ever had.
- The case is really heavy and opens extremely bad. I ripped the top part out.
- the case has L/R bud position switched, so you pick the right earbud from the left side of the case.
- the headphones feel and look cheap with the glossy finish. Should be matte plastic like Tiso i5
- Volume control is ****ed up, goes from medium to loud without in-between
- touch controll could be tuned better
- stupid old tones like from BT 4.0 China speaker
- Amplifier runs always 100% , the DAC output volume changes. Means more distribution on lower volume

Now the good parts:

- They are comfortable to wear.
- They sound extremely good with only AAC 256kbit . Like world's better than QCY T2C or Tiso i5. Better than KZ ZSN in good DAC. I used the T1 right out of the box! Normally I let most headphones to burn in couple of ours (cuz usually only the expensive audio is burned in already inside the factory) I have them for 2 days now and already want to keep those as dailys despite of the horrible UX around the earphones itself. SQ is just really nice.

The overall tune is more balanced than usual from KZ. I like it. The soundstage is not big, but the separation is awesome and makes up for that in good masters. I do relisten old songs and hear new tones . Such athmosphare in good masters. Really lively 3D space, even if not big. Overall they let some details through which I didn't knew before with my Takstar Pro 82 over head monitors and ES9018KM2 DAC.

You have really the feeling that they are limited by AAC 256kbit. Maybe I could improve that with custom Android ROMs , but right now they don't show SBC HD if the device supports AAC or better.

Overall I will rip the case apart and cut the housings out and replace left and right. So annoying . And this is nothing you would have to ask from public beta feedback. This is obviouse if you try to use it once!

If possible can you post photos of the casing changes you make. I want to try and make the holes deeper as my foam earbuds are too big and mean they don’t charge, but it doesn’t seem like there is that much room underneath.

Fingers crossed

Also is there anyway to force high quality AAC on iPhone? It seems like sometimes I connect and I get lots of cuts out but high quality music, or steady connection but poorer quality music :-/

 

[Slater]

If possible can you post photos of the casing changes you make. I want to try and make the holes deeper as my foam earbuds are too big and mean they don’t charge, but it doesn’t seem like there is that much room underneath.

Fingers crossed

Also is there anyway to force high quality AAC on iPhone? It seems like sometimes I connect and I get lots of cuts out but high quality music, or steady connection but poorer quality music :-/

You should be able to adapt this mod to the KZ case:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/goi...re-we-there-yet.861024/page-494#post-14996945

As far as forcing AAC, that’s actually what the iPhone defaults to. If AAC is available, it will use that. It’s only when AAC is not available that it drops to SPC.

 

[blomman77]

Yes they sound and measure almost exactly as the Tranya,except that Lenovo has less sub bass.
So Lenovo sounds more balanced to my ears.
If you decide to buy Lenovo,don't forget to search for discount coupons. There are several deals out there.

So you'd say they are a more balanced version of the Tranya T3? I might take a dive for the money

 

[FYLegend]

Sounds like you've potentially got a faulty set there, unless it's just down to them not sealing properly?
Mine were almost too bassy as standard and a bit 'boomy' for want of a better word on Android until you EQ them to make the trebble brighter on my P30 pro. They sound great with no EQ direct out of my MacBook though.

Most reviews note the bass response as well, so I'd suggest some different tips, and if you still have no luck it might be worth changing them.

In terms of the new models though, if my phone or Mac will do APTX then it might be worth picking them up... And also because CAMO

Sounds like you've potentially got a faulty set there, unless it's just down to them not sealing properly?
Mine were almost too bassy as standard and a bit 'boomy' for want of a better word on Android until you EQ them to make the trebble brighter on my P30 pro. They sound great with no EQ direct out of my MacBook though.

Most reviews note the bass response as well, so I'd suggest some different tips, and if you still have no luck it might be worth changing them.

In terms of the new models though, if my phone or Mac will do APTX then it might be worth picking them up... And also because CAMO

I bought these from the Flyda 3C store on Aliexpress. I also got a free rubber protector for it, but as I didn't specify the colour they gave me a pink one (...). This is the box the came in:

The right bud was low on battery upon unboxing and I initially thought it was just not working. The eartips installed were already heavily warped to the foam's shape and have not regained their original shape. Also not to keen on the case which has a rattling sound inside.

 

[Mouseman]

I'm glad my 2nd pair of 6D (or was it 8D?) got lost in transit from China. Don't need them anymore. Today my T1 betas got delivered, and after a few hours, I'm really impressed. I'll write a review later, but some first impressions now:

- pairing is quick and effortless
- sound is fantastic. I'm going to roll tips, but they have great (but not overpowering) bass. Great instrument separation and sound stage. Really wide.
- I'm on an iPhone XS Max and I'm not having the volume issues everyone is mentioning.
- the case is a lot smaller than I expected. The R/L switch is beyond stupid, but even worse is the POS hinge. I have one other set with the same one - it sucks, it's sloppy, it's cheap-looking and feeling and no one should ever use it again. I understand how someone else could have ripped it off. I expect it to be the failure point.
- touch controls are the best on any set I have, but they still seem twitchy. Give me a damn button.

So far I'm very impressed. More to come after I get some hours in with them.

 

[Caipirina]

I guess no one is surprised that the first Powerbeat Pro clones are showing up (PSA: don't buy clones / fakes / knock offs)

What surprises me more is the choice of stock photo they selected to photoshop their product on ...

 

[Caipirina]

- I'm on an iPhone XS Max and I'm not having the volume issues everyone is mentioning.

Are you certain about that? I was sure about the same on my old iPhone 7Plus, since I could see the dots of the volume meter going up / down nicely step by step ... and that fooled me into thinking the volume was changing incrementally as well ... but then I did a blind test and noticed that actually only every 3rd button press the volume would change!

 

[gibletzor]

Looks like Mpow T5s are going to be on a lightning deal tomorrow morning! Starts at 11:24AM US Central time.

 

[clerkpalmer]

Looks like Mpow T5s are going to be on a lightning deal tomorrow morning! Starts at 11:24AM US Central time.

What’s the lightning price? Is the consensus that these beat the anbes?

 

[gibletzor]

What’s the lightning price? Is the consensus that these beat the anbes?

They generally don't list the price until it starts.

 

[vstolpner]

What’s the lightning price? Is the consensus that these beat the anbes?

Last time it was $38.something... and IMO they beat the Anbes in every way except portability, and not sticking out of your ears.

 

[gibletzor]

Last time it was $38.something... and IMO they beat the Anbes in every way except portability, and not sticking out of your ears.

I have a pair of the T5s and I might just pick up a 2nd if the sale is substantial enough. I love them! Sound great, haven't had any connection issues. I've got some different eartips on the way to try out because the stock ones are just a tad deep in my ear and slightly uncomfortable, but that's just my wonky ears.

 

[chinmie]

I guess no one is surprised that the first Powerbeat Pro clones are showing up (PSA: don't buy clones / fakes / knock offs)

What surprises me more is the choice of stock photo they selected to photoshop their product on ...

is this fall into the category of knock offs though? it does seems to thread the thin line

I'm curious on how it sounds, but my target now is finding a TWS with high IPX rating to replace my Mifo o5 (right now the MPow T5 is the strongest candidate). also because i already have the BT20s combos for that similar earhook design