Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[jant71]

Bear in mind him saying among the best he's heard is not any of the real top SQ stuff. So don't be thinking Noble, EX, Devialet kinda stuff.

 

[dweaver]

A quick listen to a frequency sweep confirms my initial thought on the bass. At my normal listening volume (low to med) bass starts being audible around 75-80hz and climbs slowly until 150-160hz where it picks up and levels off in the 3-400hz range.

Not to say these are bad sounding. Just don't expect them to do 100% justice to anything with deeper bass notes/lines.

Are these the Line nkbuds (open donut) or the Linkbuds S (new closed ANC model)?

 

[cresny]

Getting late in the game, but Shure TWS adapters are $150 for Prime day. https://a.co/d/0O4UjKi

 

[Ceeluh7]

Okay, so I couldn't help myself, so I picked up the Soundcore Liberty 3 Pros today, and my first verdict (without even enabling LDAC yet): damn what a bargain for $79, I'll tell you all that!

Sure, without EQ they're kinda doodoo, but using Wavelet I really feel like these sound pretty fantastic, and I know that I haven't even dialed them in 100% to what I want yet, but despite that... still great!
I was worried that this would be another Devialet Gemini scenario for me where there was no way to make the mids sound anything other than extremely unnatural and scooped out even with EQ... fortunately, I think these sound about 5x better than the Devialets overall. I still feel like I'm tripping when I hear people on here giving praise to them... they are probably one of my least favorite TWS buds that I've ever used, without a doubt the most disappointing purchase if you account for price, at least.

I was worried, as someone who's treble sensitive and don't generally like when a bud is too V-shaped.
With the Devialets I literally can't get the sibilance to go away, here it was no worries at all. Some preset EQs in the soundcore app were pretty awful and hurt my ears but it was easy to get rid of here.

The separation and sound stage seems pretty damn good for a TWS here, if not the best at least close to the best i've heard.

ANC is decent, maybe even good. But it doesn't impress me that much either.

The negatives so far:
- They are NOT pretty.
- The wingtips I put on kept them SOLID as heck in my ears, I think they would stay put in a tornado, but my outer ear hurts a lot after using the biggest wingtip... will try to go back to the ones that came preinstalled and see if that helps.
- They don't sound effortlessly great like the Galaxy Buds Pro where the default tuning is top notch, and they (the L3P) might lack a little warmth in the mids/vocals, but it's not nearly as "metallic" or artificial as reviews have made me think, even if I certainly could imagine them sounding even better.
- Volume seems somewhat low in comparison to the GBPs, where I can listen to the GBP at around 50-60%, these seem like I need to put them at 65-75% for the same volume, not terrible by any means and I can still get uncomfortably loud if I want to.

Without question the L3P can be eq'd to be quite awesome man. Also, I didn't dig the Gemini that much either. Not bad by any means but when I got them they were $300. That is a $130 Earbud to me. Just over priced. I had to eq them as well quite a bit. Though many tws I have to do the same. I know alot of folks really enjoy the gemini and I can see why but they just didn't agree with me I suppose. The L3P on the other hand can handle any amount of eq you throw at them without much distortion and have fantastic clarity. They aren't perfect either but... I agree

 

[assassin10000]

Are these the Line nkbuds (open donut) or the Linkbuds S (new closed ANC model)?

1st linkbuds, the open donut earbud ones.

 

[Juturna]

Without question the L3P can be eq'd to be quite awesome man. Also, I didn't dig the Gemini that much either. Not bad by any means but when I got them they were $300. That is a $130 Earbud to me. Just over priced. I had to eq them as well quite a bit. Though many tws I have to do the same. I know alot of folks really enjoy the gemini and I can see why but they just didn't agree with me I suppose. The L3P on the other hand can handle any amount of eq you throw at them without much distortion and have fantastic clarity. They aren't perfect either but... I agree

Yeah, agreed 100%. I also paid over $300 (okay, I didn't, it was a gift... but my point still stands) and I also think it sounds more in line with a $130 earbud, and it definitely feels that way when you're looking at their app and overall quality and comfort of the buds.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the L3P might be my favorite earbuds right now, they don't have the effortless tuning of the GBPs, but there's something about the sound that's just so "big" and three-dimensional, there is actual DEPTH to the sound which I rarely hear from TWS's.

I paid $79 for them brand spanking new, and I would say that I could pay $200+ for them and still think they were excellent, I prefer them to the Technics AZ60 by quite a bit, for an example, but yeah perfect they are not... but I don't think I could say that for any TWS so far.

Still thinking of getting the Sony Linkbuds S later this month though, we'll see if I prefer them to the L3Ps.

Also, does anyone think we're getting a Liberty 4 Pro soon with all the discounts we've seen on the 3s? Sure Soundcore is usually pretty good at giving discounts but it's been A LOT lower than it's been previously, like getting pretty much a 50% discount here.

 

[subguy812]

I scored an inexpensive set of Sony XM4's. I have been playing with the app and comparing them to the B&O EX. Interesting comparison.

What tips do folks use on their XM4? I was curious if there is a consensus? I realized this is subjective but thought maybe there was a consensus after all of the time these have been on the market. Looking to maintain sound quality and at least provide a great seal.

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[Ultrainferno]

In our latest article, we look at the Noble Falcon ANC. Find out how the Noble Falcon ANC performs, sounds and compares, now on Headfonia! An article by @Virtu Fortuna

https://www.headfonia.com/noble-falcon-anc-review/

 

[jant71]

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sleeper-tws-your-ultimate-sleep-aid-anc-earbuds#/

I had a review sample of the Sleeper wired model. I said the all one piece tip included one size fits all wasn't the best idea. I wanted to change the size of the tip it had. So, perhaps they did a better job on the sizing here but it is still one size to fit all. Would be nice to have at least one Qualcomm codec for the price even if only aptX. Also 4 and 5 taps to do things is not the most convenient.

Should be easier to see the things that might scare people away. You are making a TWS and you could make it really appeal or you can do things to things in a way to keep them just on the other side of the fence where they look but just don't commit. Just a bit more and I would grab one.

 

[Tenlow]

I scored an inexpensive set of Sony XM4's. I have been playing with the app and comparing them to the B&O EX. Interesting comparison.

What tips do folks use on their XM4? I was curious if there is a consensus? I realized this is subjective but thought maybe there was a consensus after all of the time these have been on the market. Looking to maintain sound quality and at least provide a great seal.

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In my time with the XM4, I honestly just used the stock foam ones they come with and messed around with the EQ a bit. Other tips may sound a bit better, however I could never achieve a similar isolation level than with the stock tips.

 

[jant71]

Urbanista Seoul... https://urbanista.com/en-us/products/seoul

Another one tuned by Grell:
"Axel Grell, an acoustic engineer who developed the sound design, commented, "By delicately expressing even the finest sounds, we have succeeded in creating a sense of realism in images and games." The clear and easy-to-listen sound has realized a highly immersive sound signature."

Something like this but better would be great. Slim case and nice ergonomic shape. Just up the audio, codecs, mics, and features some more and maybe nicer quality materials and double the $89 price. Go all the way with it.

 

[FullCircle]

Well, you def do not look like a mom. But c'mon, you know what I mean. Noble isn't Sony or some conglomerate and you do things better on a smaller scale. All compliments. Now get us those FOKUS ANC buds!

The Noble H-ANC


https://nobleaudio.com/products/fokus-h-anc

Two versions
The only difference between the two is the color scheme

 

[jant71]

Purple looks good. Would only be SBC for me though since it is Airoha.

 

[FullCircle]

Purple looks good. Would only be SBC for me though since it is Airoha.

The purple was a gamble and to our surprise, we found it to be in high demand among our distributors.
The color tones are purple + grey

 

[erockg]

https://nobleaudio.com/products/fokus-h-anc

Two versions
The only difference between the two is the color scheme

Excellent! Thanks Jim. New site is much better.

Ugh, Blue is sold out.