My Devialet Geminis really must be lemons because I just can't wrap my head around people rating them that high, my Technics AZ60 sound about 10x better without exaggerating.HAD. Devialet for sound, the Technics Az60 for everything else IMO. Although the ANC on the Gemini is pretty dang good.
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Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
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Tenlow
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Admittedly, I have never heard the AZ60 but pretty much everything else I would rate the Devialet pretty highly with regard to sound, honestly. Up there with the B&O EQ and above most of the others.My Devialet Geminis really must be lemons because I just can't wrap my head around people rating them that high, my Technics AZ60 sound about 10x better without exaggerating.
There's literally nothing I could do with the EQ to make the Devialets sound better than just "ok", the bass is nice for electronic music but the rest is pretty poor to me. Underemphasized mids that can't be equalized to sound good, highs that are sharp and tinny with some sibilance that is incredibly difficult to get rid, and there's like a sloppy mess in the upper mids where it can be difficult to make out details in some instruments. Idk, maybe my ears are just weird.Admittedly, I have never heard the AZ60 but pretty much everything else I would rate the Devialet pretty highly with regard to sound, honestly. Up there with the B&O EQ and above most of the others.
erockg
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Wow, well, I mean at least you found something better. That's good. I used to put my Gemini on Dynamic and tweak the EQ and loved them. Granted, I've moved on to others at this timeMy Devialet Geminis really must be lemons because I just can't wrap my head around people rating them that high, my Technics AZ60 sound about 10x better without exaggerating.
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I hope they did better!Back to make amens...
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With the new TW-5B(old one was TW-5A 8.5 hours, ambient, adaptive, gaming mode, new app and other stuff. Odd two buttons on one side and one on the other design.
Tenlow
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You've left the Geminis and the B&O EQ behind, right? What have you been moving to? Are there significantly better sounding TWS for you than these two? Just curiousWow, well, I mean at least you found something better. That's good. I used to put my Gemini on Dynamic and tweak the EQ and loved them. Granted, I've moved on to others at this time
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Asymmetrical design for buttons is kind of odd ball. I want to assume volume rocker on one side and playback/phone controls on the other.Back to make amens...
Yamaha -
With the new TW-5B(old one was TW-5A) 8.5 hours, ambient, adaptive, gaming mode, new app and other stuff. Odd two buttons on one side and one on the other design.
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Took a flyer on these. Had a 20% coupon from Adidas that brought them down to $125. At $125 there's not much to complain about. SQ is better than expected. V-shaped and designed for the gym. These are not trying to be audiophile buds and I didn't expect them to. I'd put them on par with the Bose TWS for SQ which is to say enjoyable but not something I'd use for critical listening.I do like the look of the new Addidas...
Just you pay more for the name. They might be quite good but just should be cheaper for only ambient, BT5.2, and 25 total hours of battery life. IPX5 is not that high for sports either. $99 would be more tempting.
https://www.adidasheadphones.com/us...VDo6zCh044gFwEAQYASABEgIQRPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
The fit is the star of the show. They are very light and comfortable. While I haven't tried running in them, I have no doubt they would stay put. They have a Bose-like ear fin and a very shallow earbud design. Not quite as shallow as Bose or APP but they don't go very far in. Just enough to seal. Low profile and I like the looks. Once in, they feel barely there. Have a lot of similarities to the Jaybird Vista but I could never dial in the sound on the Jaybirds to my liking. These sound good out of the box on the flat setting.
Everything else is pretty average but they come with an option to lock the touch controls which was a selling point to me as sweat often causes unwanted control changes. The cover to the case is secured by a magnet and easily detached. This is a very odd design choice and I'm not sure what purpose it serves. If you try to hold them from the lid, it will detach and the buds and case fall. Bizarre.
Overall - not bad for the price paid. I'll use them as my outdoor/active buds. They look decent and fit extremely well. Audiophiles or those who need ANC look elsewhere.
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I've always like Yamaha's audio gear. These look like barring superglue, they would fall out of my ears immediately.Back to make amens...
Yamaha -
With the new TW-5B(old one was TW-5A) 8.5 hours, ambient, adaptive, gaming mode, new app and other stuff. Odd two buttons on one side and one on the other design.
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Yep, play/pause/calls/ambient is the single L button while volume and track controls are the double buttons on the R.Asymmetrical design for buttons is kind of odd ball. I want to assume volume rocker on one side and playback/phone controls on the other.
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/headphones/tw-e5b/support.html#product-tabs
Price is $149.95. Brown color is pretty nice looking(they are pretty big though)...
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Great review and consistent with what most of us here already have concluded:In our newest article we're looking at the Noble Audio Fokus Pro TWS, an article by @Aerosphere
https://www.headfonia.com/noble-audio-fokus-pro-review/
"It is not every day we get this level of performance, wirelessly. It may be the best TWS earphone I’ve listened to."
They are indeed the best TWS I have ever heard. If they could figure out a way to add ANC, they would be unbeatable.
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Currently a deal on the Gamesky reviewed version of the Lavabeans...
https://www.amazon.com/LavaBeans-Bl...ones-Microphone/dp/B09LTVJNW9?ref_=ast_sto_dp
I did finish my testing of the LavaBeans and they are excellent. Only issue is the BT range. If I want to use these within range they match or beat everything else for stability esp. in the back pocket. Good for using with DAPs that might not have the BT transmission of a phone. Buuut, if I want to go out on the basketball court and I'm alone and run full court to get the running in I'd have to use the AT instead cause they will reach the whole distance up and down the court if I would leave the device hooked on the fence. Better than the AT for even less drops in normal range but the range is the standard 33 feet and then it starts to drop vs. the AT which will give about 75 feet or so.
https://www.amazon.com/LavaBeans-Bl...ones-Microphone/dp/B09LTVJNW9?ref_=ast_sto_dp
I did finish my testing of the LavaBeans and they are excellent. Only issue is the BT range. If I want to use these within range they match or beat everything else for stability esp. in the back pocket. Good for using with DAPs that might not have the BT transmission of a phone. Buuut, if I want to go out on the basketball court and I'm alone and run full court to get the running in I'd have to use the AT instead cause they will reach the whole distance up and down the court if I would leave the device hooked on the fence. Better than the AT for even less drops in normal range but the range is the standard 33 feet and then it starts to drop vs. the AT which will give about 75 feet or so.
Ceeluh7
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Thanks for the link man. They sound pretty nice too from what I gather. I still haven't purchased them yet spending so much time with other sets but appreciate it. I think $17...thats sillyCurrently a deal on the Gamesky reviewed version of the Lavabeans...
https://www.amazon.com/LavaBeans-Bl...ones-Microphone/dp/B09LTVJNW9?ref_=ast_sto_dp
I did finish my testing of the LavaBeans and they are excellent. Only issue is the BT range. If I want to use these within range they match or beat everything else for stability esp. in the back pocket. Good for using with DAPs that might not have the BT transmission of a phone. Buuut, if I want to go out on the basketball court and I'm alone and run full court to get the running in I'd have to use the AT instead cause they will reach the whole distance up and down the court if I would leave the device hooked on the fence. Better than the AT for even less drops in normal range but the range is the standard 33 feet and then it starts to drop vs. the AT which will give about 75 feet or so.
erockg
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Noble Fokus Pro for the best sounding TWS in my house. Love them. Then we amp it up to the IEMs, Thieaudio Monarch MK2 and Legacy 4s on adapters. I have a few other TWS but small ones not geared for best sound. Here's my current lineup. No wild hairs this week for anything new... YET!You've left the Geminis and the B&O EQ behind, right? What have you been moving to? Are there significantly better sounding TWS for you than these two? Just curious