Jan 20, 2022 at 6:18 PM Post #42,046 of 70,833
I found them to be quite bright IMO. They reminded me of an Etymotic ER4SR (not XR) with a subtle bass boost and slightly hotter treble. I tend to listen to 256 AAC with my iPhone. Wired or wireless it ends up being encoded into the same codec.
I'm using Spiral dots tips. Less treble detail than my Solaris, bot lacking in bass, and hits nice on tracks with strong bass emphasis. Interesting how different we describe the audio presentation. I demo at Canjam after reading they lacked bass, and found myself pleasantly surprised. Modern hip hop, r&b, and jazz with strong bass didn't lack for me.
 
Jan 20, 2022 at 6:28 PM Post #42,047 of 70,833
They carry JVC and figure they would be getting the FW1000T in. Maybe that is a possible route.
I checked. Nada. Doesn't seem like BB is carrying many new TWS lately. The stores by me seem to be sparse or shutting down. So sad.

That new JVC was oos on Amazon today too.
 
Jan 20, 2022 at 6:32 PM Post #42,049 of 70,833
Hey man, how was the low end on the ze3000? Also, was it a very warm sounding set? Just wondering if it carries that final audio tonality. I'm still thinking of picking a pair up.... Maybe
They had low end. But nothing compared to the Fokus. I mean, I thought they were average, man. Honestly, I was excited at first but for $150 there was other stuff I'd rather spend on. I didn't feel they were as warm as the Fokus can get. They felt cheap to me. Granted, $150, but Jabra and Sennheiser in that range felt better. Just my opinion. They are no frills. No features. They do have volume controls which was nice. I'd say the Grado and KEF buds are much nicer. Trying to think of others in that range.

Curious how these are: https://audio46.com/products/kinera...ireless-in-ear-monitor?variant=42327447634153. Not a huge fan of stalks but Kinera make some great IEMs I've heard.
 
Jan 20, 2022 at 6:33 PM Post #42,050 of 70,833
Do you have a BB Magnolia store near you? A little more interesting options in those I have noticed.
Yeah, but nothing good at the B&M. They used to carry B&O, B&W etc., but nowadays here in LA, it's all online for BB.
 
Jan 20, 2022 at 6:35 PM Post #42,051 of 70,833
I’d love for you to do it, if for no other (selfish) reason than to hear your thoughts in comparison to Fokus just on sound.
You truly are an evil human. It might just happen! Off memory, I do prefer the Fokus. If I do revisit, I'll do a critical listen.
 
Jan 20, 2022 at 6:54 PM Post #42,053 of 70,833
I don't know. I'm one of the few that enjoy the thread for what it is. The header at the top is wrong. Fully wireless IEM? It's a broad title IMO. More like - Truly Wireless IEMs. Whether it's an IEM with an adapter or TWS buds, I'm here. If I need to Search, I search. I do it all the time. Most of the regulars know what the end game buds are at this point - There is and never will be an end game. Also, most folks on this thread reply to anyone and everyone who asks a question. We're all here to help one another, in what little ways we can. That's the fun. So, you can split hairs and say, and IEM with an adapter isn't a TWS, or this should be a TWS buds only thread, but I respectfully disagree. It's truly wireless, fully wireless IEM, whatever thread. Don't get me wrong, I completely get what some of you are saying. I'm just easy. Easy like Su- Yeah, I'll stop.
 
Jan 20, 2022 at 7:03 PM Post #42,054 of 70,833
Speaking of, I work close to a Marshals store that always has a good selection of cheap (under $50) TWS headphones..
I’ve probably bought at least 15 over the last 2 years; I know, that’s nothing compared to others on this board. In fact, so cheap I don’t even bother to take them back..
All have on thing in common, they’re not really very good. I’m more interested in how can they make them so cheap. Each has a Bluetooth chip, battery, battery charge circuitry, D/A, some sort of DSP. Most likely 3 batteries (one each for the bus, and one for the charging case). Don’t forget the drivers…
Maybe they intended to sell them at a higher price, and this is just to get something back money wise…
I do have fun with them…

The best all around were the Bose sound sports Free’s, I have two, but these were $99 each….

I like them better than my QC earbuds, M and D 07’s and Sony XM3’s…

And no, these were not under $50..
More in the above $150..
 
Jan 20, 2022 at 7:09 PM Post #42,055 of 70,833
Yep, we need a separate blog for the adapters. Since the adapters have far more real estate, with which to cram batteries, chips, amplifiers..etc.., they’ll probably be the first to hit true high fi..
But one needs to be a little crazy to wear large dongles behind their ears.. 😃
I remember people beating up Bose for their Sound Sports Free TWS because of the size (which are excellent headphones btw). The adapter route will never be a big market…
Famous last words... That's what I thought about the Shure TW2 but they are slick, smaller than they look in photos and work very well.
My favorite TWS nowadays.
 
Jan 20, 2022 at 7:10 PM Post #42,056 of 70,833
I don't know. I'm one of the few that enjoy the thread for what it is. The header at the top is wrong. Fully wireless IEM? It's a broad title IMO. More like - Truly Wireless IEMs. Whether it's an IEM with an adapter or TWS buds, I'm here. If I need to Search, I search. I do it all the time. Most of the regulars know what the end game buds are at this point - There is and never will be an end game. Also, most folks on this thread reply to anyone and everyone who asks a question. We're all here to help one another, in what little ways we can. That's the fun. So, you can split hairs and say, and IEM with an adapter isn't a TWS, or this should be a TWS buds only thread, but I respectfully disagree. It's truly wireless, fully wireless IEM, whatever thread. Don't get me wrong, I completely get what some of you are saying. I'm just easy. Easy like Su- Yeah, I'll stop.
I can agree with this as well. I am newer to the group and reply alot to the adapter stuff and didn't want anyone getting pissed off and annoyed. To me I like having an all encompassing wireless place. Like I said I didn't want anyone getting annoyed. I can easily navigate between the topics and don't have an issue, just didn't want to be a bother. However I understand why some would want an all tws thread to keep it more simple and on the point that they come here for. I do think changing the thread to "wireless" would be easier to digest. Anyways, nice post man, this too is a valid point
 
Jan 20, 2022 at 7:13 PM Post #42,057 of 70,833
Speaking of, I work close to a Marshals store that always has a good selection of cheap (under $50) TWS headphones..
I’ve probably bought at least 15 over the last 2 years; I know, that’s nothing compared to others on this board. In fact, so cheap I don’t even bother to take them back..
All have on thing in common, they’re not really very good. I’m more interested in how can they make them so cheap. Each has a Bluetooth chip, battery, battery charge circuitry, D/A, some sort of DSP. Most likely 3 batteries (one each for the bus, and one for the charging case). Don’t forget the drivers…
Maybe they intended to sell them at a higher price, and this is just to get something back money wise…
I do have fun with them…

The best all around were the Bose sound sports Free’s, I have two, but these were $99 each….

I like them better than my QC earbuds, M and D 07’s and Sony XM3’s…

And no, these were not under $50..
More in the above $150..
Dude... I buy cheap audio gear ALL THE TIME. I am always searching for the diamond in the rough. I buy cheap iems like a crazy person as well as cheap tws... Lol. I just figure nobody on here would give two craps about any of them. Anyways, I'm interested, I like lesser expensive things which punch above their pric tag.
 
Jan 20, 2022 at 7:18 PM Post #42,059 of 70,833
Oh, I’m not pissed, it’s all good…
Technology is moving faster than I can keep up…
As I said, the dongle only makes sense if they can truly us the large dongles to cram in high end components that otherwise wouldn’t fit in the in ears.
For sure, no one is angry here. Font is always flat. We're all just spending too much and having fun.
 

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