Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[korefuji]

Interesting about the comment from Senn about battery and such, it seems to be a similar case with the NuForce, Here's a snapshot of their comment on Massdrop.

 

[god-bluff]

This is a silly and judgmental false equivalence taken to the extreme. Please go find another thread if you have nothing useful to contribute except passive-aggressiveness and an unearned sense of self-superiority.

Cheers shall do. I'm sorted, Ta.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Yes I agree you should literally be able to "lmfbao' return anything you're not too keen on, an open tin of baked beans, a half eaten burger, a well thumbed and completed albeit unsatisfactory ending paperback book, an airline ticket mid Atlantic, a not quite perfect child perhaps.

The customer is always right. Some lucky devil will buy it or at least pick up the tab somewhere down the line.

Carry on

I'm struggling to accept that this was written by a person. No one, no one, who cares about customer satisfaction would ever suggest that returning items is a bad thing. It's not even bad for business. At all.

Let's put it like this. If someone is looking to purchase a high-ticket item, they're far less likely to do so if it's an all-or-nothing gamble where if they dislike it they're stuck with it. People are far looser with money if they have the flexibility to return things. That's why, for example, Best Buy actually extends the return window for customers who spend more. People who order high-end items off of Amazon sure as hell aren't going to do it if whatever shows up is just their problem no matter what.

By the way, despite your hilarious attempts at reductio ad absurdum "examples," book stores have return policies and so do grocery stores. Hell I get my pet food through Chewy and if my dog doesn't like it or seems to be having ill effects from it I can return a half-eaten bag.

You know what the result of these policies is? I shop more from those stores. If there's no return policy, I avoid that like the plague. So, shockingly, stores that allow their customers to make returns on unsatisfactory items end up with long-term customer loyalty and a lot more revenue from said customers.

But hey, I guess you like being up on your straw-man arguing high horse, right?

 

[hifi80sman]

Just got these puppies and getting them fired up. So far, battery showing 100% / 100%. Transparent mode works nicely and is not uneven like the E8 (left side on E8 was much "hotter" than right). Fit for me is similar to the E8, but without having to play with it to get a good seal. I just pop it in, and boom, nice seal. Not a fan of the EQ "dot" and much rather have a 9-Band EQ. Listening now...

 

[turbobb]

waterproofing is one of the best "ease of mind" invention

oh nice, are those the X12's?

 

[nc8000]

Yes I did the update the first thing I received them.

I’ve not had a single drop out on the M2 in my first 12 hours of use. Today I’ll be trying them out for the first time out in the real world in morning commuter trains and through Copenhagen central station and underground. Will see how they handle that

 

[chinmie]

oh nice, are those the X12's?

no, this is the Mifo o5. i don't know if the sabbat can be submerged like that although it says ipx7

 

[jfvny]

I have a bit of a weird question: Do any of you sleep with the TWEs? Or is there a pair of TWEs with an especially small profile? I sometimes sleep with earphones on, and while my Havit G1 is passable for this (protrudes a little more than I'd like though), using it like this means I'm out of charge before my morning run. And so I'm looking for a 2nd TWE pair (or at least that's the justification I'm giving myself lol)

 

[chinmie]

I have a bit of a weird question: Do any of you sleep with the TWEs? Or is there a pair of TWEs with an especially small profile? I sometimes sleep with earphones on, and while my Havit G1 is passable for this (protrudes a little more than I'd like though), using it like this means I'm out of charge before my morning run. And so I'm looking for a 2nd TWE pair (or at least that's the justification I'm giving myself lol)

i do. the most comfortable and flush profile are the sabbat and earin. the mifo is also flush, but still feel the pressure if i put my ear down on the pillow.

 

[jeffri]

I do nap with headphones on often, but I have learned myself not to lean to sides when having headphones on (even though I'm side sleeper).

You might want to consider Sleepbuds from Bose I think? Shame that we can't load our own music, but it's an interesting product specifically for this.

 

[nc8000]

I have a bit of a weird question: Do any of you sleep with the TWEs? Or is there a pair of TWEs with an especially small profile? I sometimes sleep with earphones on, and while my Havit G1 is passable for this (protrudes a little more than I'd like though), using it like this means I'm out of charge before my morning run. And so I'm looking for a 2nd TWE pair (or at least that's the justification I'm giving myself lol)

I do with the Earin M2, coulden’t with the Havit G1 nor the Beoplay E8

 

[Boreaquis]

no, this is the Mifo o5. i don't know if the sabbat can be submerged like that although it says ipx7

Where does it say ipx7 for the x12? The store page I used said ipx5, and I didn't see anything about waterproofing in the manual, so I wouldn't dare to submerge it.

 

[RobinFood]

I had a question about the Earin M2...

I have a very bad budget phone at the moment and it sports a very poor bluetooth chip that has a spotty connection and no APTx.

I typically use my non-android DAP to listen to music, either wired or wireless through bluetooth, but that pretty much means I can&t use any apps. Of course, I could still do initial firmware updates with my phone, but would typically be using it app-less.

I am just wondering how important the app is to the Earin, and if there is any way to activate and deactivate the transparency mode using just the touch controls.

Also, what are the friendliest app-less TWE out right now?

 

[nc8000]

I had a question about the Earin M2...

I have a very bad budget phone at the moment and it sports a very poor bluetooth chip that has a spotty connection and no APTx.

I typically use my non-android DAP to listen to music, either wired or wireless through bluetooth, but that pretty much means I can&t use any apps. Of course, I could still do initial firmware updates with my phone, but would typically be using it app-less.

I am just wondering how important the app is to the Earin, and if there is any way to activate and deactivate the transparency mode using just the touch controls.

Also, what are the friendliest app-less TWE out right now?

The Havit G1 has no app at all. The app for both M2 and Beoplay E8 just programs the behavior of the buds and handles fw updates, it’s not needed for normal operation, that is all done via the controls on the buds

 

[webvan]

with the overall SQ, size, battery life, connection stability, etc, the M2 is still pretty much "futuristic" compared to the others. i would love to see the M3 soon, but the M2 can hold it's ground just fine these days.

i also really like the ambient mode of the M2, as they are using adjustable noise gate to cut out ambient noise and only opens when higher volumed sound detected. might sound metallic, but we can hear conversations clearer.

the Jabra and Sony just basically turn on the mic and let everything in.. so we hear constant hiss of the noise floor.

the funny thing is, the M2 is the cheapest price i paid to aquire from all my TWS collection, so if i factor that in, my M2 is the best price to performance ratio

Sounds like you overpaid for your X12 then

Since you have both and I know you liked the WF1000x SQ, how would you compare its SQ with the M2's SQ ?