Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[TK33]

Oh, I assumed that they weren't gonna include anything besides AAC/SBC like all predecessors

I did too until I saw the post by @Bhelpoori above. Just when I was becoming more focused on my wired setup, here comes yet another TWS...

If better call quality, swappable sides during calls and aptX HD in a small package then my laptop may finally get its own TWS. Looking forward to some official specs and feedback from users here.

 

[darveniza]

Well, my short experience with the B&O Beoplay EQs confirms most of what others have said. Sound quality is, at best, marginally better than my Devialet Geminis. The Geminis have vastly better ANC, are less bulky, and fit my ears better. Unfortunately, the left bud on the Beoplay EQ died after a few hours of usage, cannot be factory reset, and will not charge - in fact, the charging indicator on the case keeps fluctuating, as if there is a short or something. These are going back to B&O for a refund, as even if they did work correctly, the sound quality improvement over the Gemini is not enough to justify the extra $100. Also, the EQs have very little volume headroom on my iPhone - they need to be at 80-90% for me, as opposed to needing to run the Gemini at 50-60%.

When you refer to less bulky?. I see B&O as the travel choice, the Gemini case is just to big.
The app on B&O also is an upgrade.
Just some additional thoughts, I am keeping both as I feel signature are different

 

[Tommy C]

I did too until I saw the post by @Bhelpoori above. Just when I was becoming more focused on my wired setup, here comes yet another TWS...

If better call quality, swappable sides during calls and aptX HD in a small package then my laptop may finally get its own TWS. Looking forward to some official specs and feedback from users here.

Same here, but since the MT is almost unusable for work calls I may need to get the Jabra or maybe I’m just trying to find reasons to try the new lineup by Jabra.

 

[potix]

How do the Devialets handle wind noise? - That's one area that I feel MTW2 don't handle very well at all.

Philips are borrowing Sony tech?

https://www.whathifi.com/news/phili...true-wireless-earbuds-to-flagship-audio-range

Maybe I prefer to take two vinyl records and wear them as earrings

 

[cresny]

How do the Devialets handle wind noise? - That's one area that I feel MTW2 don't handle very well at all.

Wind is handled well on ANC. To me it's on par with Sony XM3's wind reduction mode.

 

[HaliHarry]

Tương tự ở đây, nhưng vì MT hầu như không sử dụng được cho các cuộc gọi công việc, tôi có thể cần phải có Jabra hoặc có thể tôi chỉ đang cố gắng tìm lý do để thử dòng sản phẩm mới của Jabra.

What do you think about vocal and soundstage of MT? Is it thin and narrow ??

 

[cresny]

I only hear distortion in my left earbud during the first 20 seconds of this track:

Zero distortion on the same track when using my Klipsch.

Also, tried the same Scorpions track @BooleanBones suggested using the Klipsch and still hear the sound he referenced so I’m guessing it’s in the source in the situation.

But this is interesting, I just tried the same 20 seconds on the above track with my Gemini and I hear the distortion. Evidently whatever processing is inside the Klipsch buds is filtering out that distortion. I don’t know what’s going on with all these buds anymore!

Were you talking about the Gemini? I heard zero distortion. But then maybe it's my tinnitus

 

[Tommy C]

What do you think about vocal and soundstage of MT? Is it thin and narrow ??

On the default eq which is now called Immersive, I don't find the vocals to be thin at all, if anything they are nice and warmer than natural in my opinion.
Soundstage it about average. Not much left-right and up-down but has some depth. It's nice but nothing outstanding.

 

[BooleanBones]

Were you talking about the Gemini? I heard zero distortion. But then maybe it's my tinnitus

Nah, we are running some test comparison on the B&O EQs.

 

[BooleanBones]

I only hear distortion in my left earbud during the first 20 seconds of this track:

Zero distortion on the same track when using my Klipsch.

Also, tried the same Scorpions track @BooleanBones suggested using the Klipsch and still hear the sound he referenced so I’m guessing it’s in the source in the situation.

But this is interesting, I just tried the same 20 seconds on the above track with my Gemini and I hear the distortion. Evidently whatever processing is inside the Klipsch buds is filtering out that distortion. I don’t know what’s going on with all these buds anymore!

I hear some on that track too on the left side. Like a quick popping here and there.

 

[alchemical]

Received my EQs earlier today, still more listening to do but from early impressions they won’t be displacing the Geminis for me, good as they sound. I find the fit, volume, bass response and ANC superior on the Devialets, so I anticipate parting with the B&Os. The Geminis have just been such a huge surprise.

 

[FYLegend]

Jabra will be much more interesting this time around since the AAC codec will be implemented in the upcoming H2 Windows update, so they will be useable with your PC as well.

I found the 65t to sound almost as good on SBC through my PC as AAC on my phone. At bitpool 53 the highs be slightly splashy and rolled off and frequency sweeps have echoing artifacts (not noticeable with music), but it only makes a night and day difference if you have something with a low SBC bitpool like the Galaxy Buds series (which sound terribly distorted in the highs at bitpool 37).

They probably had some other reasons (connectivity/stability), but I find it a bit ridiculous that Jabra took this long to implement features built in to the chips. The 75t had the ability to support AptX and independent bud use, but Jabra decided not to implement either feature (they promised the latter but it got cancelled).

I'm a bit disappointed the Elite 3 does not have multipoint. I wouldn't mind paying a bit more for it.

 

[Tommy C]

So more thoughts on the CA MT since I have been using them for a couple of days now.

Had no connectivity issues once they are paired but not always they will pair automatically to my phone so I need to look into that to see why.
Ambient mode is OK but has hiccups. Once you are in ambient mode and the music has stopped I hear clipping which almost feels like it momentarily toggles between on/off - not a deal breaker but rather annoying as my Jabra from 2017 was doing it (which was later fixed with a FW update) so hoping CA can get this resolved.
The fit is good, not great for my ears but good enough. The stock ear fins can get rather uncomfortable but I may need to get used to it.
Sounds is solid, to my ears it's not a game changer but rather good enough. There wasn't any wow moment when I put them on and played music for the first time but they are very good for most scenarios. Still playing around with the equalizer though as I find them to get boomy on certain tracks, mostly pop and electronic music.
Phone calls and this may be the deal breaker - I'm unable to carry a conversation. People keep ask me to repeat myself of talk louder when switching to all other TWS that I currently have, they say I sound crystal clear. Not sure if maybe my unit has a defective mic but will need to look into that.

 

[erockg]

When you refer to less bulky?. I see B&O as the travel choice, the Gemini case is just to big.
The app on B&O also is an upgrade.
Just some additional thoughts, I am keeping both as I feel signature are different

I'm keeping both too. I've had my Devialets for months and I just love the form factor of the B&Os despite a few pitfalls. Unless those pitfalls get severe, I seem to be using my B&O EQs more than my Devialet Geminis

 

[BooleanBones]

I'm keeping both too. I've had my Devialets for months and I just love the form factor of the B&Os despite a few pitfalls. Unless those pitfalls get severe, I seem to be using my B&O EQs more than my Devialet Geminis

I am going to ping B&O today and see what they have to say on what we have observed.