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Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

Apr 15, 2021 at 9:20 AM Post #31,936 of 70,837
Apr 15, 2021 at 9:38 AM Post #31,937 of 70,837
Apr 15, 2021 at 9:39 AM Post #31,938 of 70,837
tiagopinto said:
From what has been written lately, I’d really like to try these KEF’s, the Falcon Pro’s and the MW08. Just wish I had more wiggle room in my wallet and, since I’ve been reading about LE Audio and LC3 (I just hope Apple will have this available on an iPhone...), I honestly do not want to invest much now on what’s soon gonna be really different. Anyway, it’ll take some time...

Do you guys have any take on how long this will take to materialize and then eventually become a standard?



I’m a firm defender of keeping info condensed in one place and not dispersed. A “general” thread like this, about ALL the TWS makes very much sense to me, because comparison is paramount. I’ve thrown in the occasional playlist and really like when other people do that too or even mention what they’ve been listening to. Very interesting.
I understand and sometimes like to compartmentalize some issues but this is evolving so fast that I’d hate to loose one bit. I’m glad I followed this thread early and read through more than twenty one hundred pages of information you guys keep sharing. Some people have even been accused of doing too much but that’s very far from my view. It’s been VERY useful info (thank you) and EVERYONE is encouraged to chime in (please do). I try to do my humble bit. Cheers!
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Yep, and in the end, the hobby is about finding music that you live listening to. I just discovered Eric Bibb on the “what are you listening to now”
 
Apr 15, 2021 at 9:59 AM Post #31,941 of 70,837
tiagopinto said:
From what has been written lately, I’d really like to try these KEF’s, the Falcon Pro’s and the MW08. Just wish I had more wiggle room in my wallet and, since I’ve been reading about LE Audio and LC3 (I just hope Apple will have this available on an iPhone...), I honestly do not want to invest much now on what’s soon gonna be really different. Anyway, it’ll take some time...

Do you guys have any take on how long this will take to materialize and then eventually become a standard?



I’m a firm defender of keeping info condensed in one place and not dispersed. A “general” thread like this, about ALL the TWS makes very much sense to me, because comparison is paramount. I’ve thrown in the occasional playlist and really like when other people do that too or even mention what they’ve been listening to. Very interesting.
I understand and sometimes like to compartmentalize some issues but this is evolving so fast that I’d hate to loose one bit. I’m glad I followed this thread early and read through more than twenty one hundred pages of information you guys keep sharing. Some people have even been accused of doing too much but that’s very far from my view. It’s been VERY useful info (thank you) and EVERYONE is encouraged to chime in (please do). I try to do my humble bit. Cheers!
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SIG is pushing for makers to implement the technology now but with some 5.2 changes not being fully available could be end of 2021 or beginning of 2022 we start seeing some makers go this route.
 
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Apr 15, 2021 at 10:01 AM Post #31,942 of 70,837
Darkestred said:
SIIG is pushing for makers to implement the technology now but with some 5.2 changes not being fully available could be end of 2021 or beginning of 2022 we start seeing some makers go this route.
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Apple users don’t hold your breath. Apple will remain stubborn for at least a year after android. And maybe forever.
 
Apr 15, 2021 at 10:23 AM Post #31,943 of 70,837
Luke Skywalker said:
Yep, and in the end, the hobby is about finding music that you live listening to. I just discovered Eric Bibb on the “what are you listening to now”
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Just added him to my ongoing audition playlist. Thx.



I invite you and everyone to take a peek but it’s constantly changing as I’m removing and adding more, normally full albums.

(the title doesn’t mean much, it’s just the date it started and the first source I used. It’s VERY eclectic though, so for all tastes)
 
Apr 15, 2021 at 10:32 AM Post #31,944 of 70,837
tiagopinto said:



A friend of mine, knowing my penchant for sound reproduction gadgets, go figure... told me “take my Tevi’s for a week, test them out and let me know what you think”.

At the time he got his, like a year ago, I tried talking him into buying the Melomania 1’s... he went for the Tevi’s. I showed him my MT’s this weekend but we didn’t have the opportunity for him to test mine or me his.

I listened to the Tevi for a few hours today but don’t have a complete conclusion. I’m gonna do an MT/Tevi direct comparison and I’ll give you my humble opinion.
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Tevi (100€)

Form factor and tech:

Unfortunately I tried out the beige colored buds. They look more like hearing aids. I’d never get this color. White is one thing, this is not good.

Still they are comfortable and provide a good seal/passive isolation (I only tried them indoors). I wouldn’t workout or ride my bike in these as a more vigorous shake and they loose seal or might fall off.

The Left/Right is identified but you must angle them to the light to be able to see the tiny L or R.

The app is basic but works. EQ is fairly responsive but not the cure.

Button controls are too firm and every time uncomfortably pushing the buds in your ears, having to be readjusted.

The case is ok, although in this color it gets dirty very quick. No wireless charge. (Remaining charge) Lights only stay on for like half a second (forcing repeat actions) and the lights on the buds are very tiny and almost imperceptible (maybe they’d be more noticeable if the buds were black)

One very positive thing is that they always reconnected and never skipped or muted, even for a second. Strangely, they remained “connected” even inside the closed case, which makes me wonder about battery drain...

Sound
Frequency Range:
Lows - present but not extended (only mid bass, no low bass)
Mids - bleed into all else
Highs - defined but not crisp

Soundstage - narrow (nowhere near)
Instrument Separation - muffled (nowhere near)
Musicality - no



MT (130€)

Form factor and tech:
I have these in black (but could get the white without any issue).

They are very comfortable, provide a good seal/passive isolation and the fins make them stay put and secure for workouts/bike rides. Although, as I have mentioned before, there is the awareness/wind noise issue.

Left/Right is clearly identified (and once you get used to them) even in the dark.

The app is fine, works well and has full control and EQ (with three custom profiles).

Touch controls are VERY sensitive, even triggered by a neck tube. Positive is they never miss, negative is they never miss.

The case is ok, maybe a little less robust but the lights stay on while the case is open. No wireless charge. The lights os the buds are noticeable and clear.

As is known, these buds had connection issues but this was solved by firmware and since then only very occasional dropouts occur.

Sound
Frequency Range:
Lows - present, extended (might need taming for some tastes)
Mids - clear, defined
Highs - defined, crisp (but not at all sibilant)

Soundstage - wide
Instrument Separation - definitely noticeable
Musicality - yes!


Bottom line is the Tevi’s may be more neutral sounding but there’s a sense that the sound is congested. On the other hand, although the MT’s may be more bass bloated, they make for a definitely more exciting and engaging audition.
I listened to several different genres and, as usual, my headphone test playlist. This is definitely not a critical review but just my two cents when comparing these two. Price/quality, I wouldn’t hesitate on the MT’s.
 
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Apr 15, 2021 at 12:30 PM Post #31,947 of 70,837
Hi All, I've been away too long, been allocating my funds for an new OLED and building a new PC.
Saw a review this morning on the MW08's and thought it might be time to buy a few more pairs of TWS'.:L3000:
I've been rocking the APPs, FIIL T1 Pros, Jabra 75t's and my Tevi's for a long while now and was wondering what all of your favorite TWS's at the moment are?
 
Apr 15, 2021 at 12:32 PM Post #31,948 of 70,837
Apr 15, 2021 at 1:11 PM Post #31,949 of 70,837
TWS choices...

KEF Mu3 (200€) maybe but would have to listen. I like the descriptions I’ve read

M&D MW08 (300€) the “probable” choice, but expensive

Noble Falcon Pro (330€) have read high praise, but VERY expensive

Grado GT220 (260€) I like the quality. But they definitely lack in “extra features”

Between these and the MT’s I own, what is your take? How do they compare? Are the others much better that they justify their price jump over the MT?

I prefer sound quality, and this trait is definitely the most important, but also like to have extra features, like Ambient/ANC, Qi, decent battery, good secure fit, nice easy controls (if buttons they must be soft or displaced like the M&D). I don’t care much for codecs as I’m on an iPhone (mostly) or an iPad. I listen to most genres on Spotify and Tidal (hi-fi).
It’s my firm belief that any headphone (or speaker) should play well any genre (the meaning of high fidelity) and that EQ should only be corrective if needed. But our ears are free and taste plays a big role.

Should I stay put or risk it? Which ones, any of these or any others?... too many questions. Thanks.
 
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