May 1, 2020 at 7:27 PM Post #21,691 of 70,815
I had trouble getting a good seal on the T5's but I slapped on a set of SpinFit CP350's and was able to get a pretty good seal. To my ears, the Bomaker's are easily better than T5's in SQ, but where the T5 really shines (and the specific use case I purchased them for) is the low latency gaming mode without need for aptX LL. They really are pretty good and maybe just a hair behind aptX LL, but suits my needs just fine for video editing purposes.
My kid agrees with you regarding the latency mode on the T5.
 
May 1, 2020 at 7:32 PM Post #21,692 of 70,815
Just ordered a pair as well. Going to compare them to my MTW2. We shall see...
Just ordered a pair too. God this hobby is bad. Bad for the wallet.
 
May 1, 2020 at 7:35 PM Post #21,693 of 70,815
Funny you should mention those, I just bought some off ebay for $60. I haven't used them since before the app and firmware updates came out, so i'm excited to hear how the sound quality has changed. My biggest complaint was the lack of bass. I"m waiting for the new Panasonic/Technics, I think there were 2-3 other buds due out by the end of the year that have ANC/Transpanency is the Bose one of those?
If you like spinfits, I highly recommend the CP-360 w/the Tevis.
 
May 1, 2020 at 9:29 PM Post #21,694 of 70,815
I actually returned mine and stuck with the MTW2, which were cheaper and have ANC. They fit my needs better. I didn't notice a longer delay. Very strange for sure.
I vote 1 star for E8 gen3 while 4 for gen2.
Gen3 has more bug than gen2 : L mute by chance(not so frequence), ambient activate moment will boost up volume if playing a track. Tone test found tons of noise from 7khz and above... I can say it can not produce a sing tone any higher than 7k!
But, it did not come to complex tone any meaning. Strange!

Sound sig is change toward 1000xm3, still be rich and spacious sound like gen2. So, like a gen2 with a little bass tigh controlled.
By this thing I did not return gen3.
 
May 1, 2020 at 9:57 PM Post #21,695 of 70,815
I vote 1 star for E8 gen3 while 4 for gen2.
Gen3 has more bug than gen2 : L mute by chance(not so frequence), ambient activate moment will boost up volume if playing a track. Tone test found tons of noise from 7khz and above... I can say it can not produce a sing tone any higher than 7k!
But, it did not come to complex tone any meaning. Strange!

Sound sig is change toward 1000xm3, still be rich and spacious sound like gen2. So, like a gen2 with a little bass tigh controlled.
By this thing I did not return gen3.
I had zero issues with the Beoplay E8 3g using an iPhone 11 pro max. They did issue a firmware update that helped the Passthrough mode while I had them. That said, I do like my MTW2 better. If the Beoplay E8 3g come down in price, I might revisit.
 
May 1, 2020 at 10:40 PM Post #21,697 of 70,815
How come no discussion of the new Pixel Buds?
Yeah, I saw this floating around. The best TWS design I've seen yet. I really like the look of the just a white dot as the earpiece. Terrific looking design. Too bad no ANC, and no idea about sound.

Might be because no one here have acquired it yet. It does look interesting, although the battery spec is a bit on the low end in today's standard.
If you like the look, wearing the galaxy buds also looks similar on the ears, though smaller.
 
May 1, 2020 at 10:52 PM Post #21,698 of 70,815
Might be because no one here have acquired it yet. It does look interesting, although the battery spec is a bit on the low end in today's standard.
If you like the look, wearing the galaxy buds also looks similar on the ears, though smaller.
I liked the sturdiness and feel of Galaxy buds in the ear, but if I compare strictly in terms of design, Pixel Buds just comes up on top. There's nothing that looks like it, and the minimalist design is so strikingly good looking and original. The design was what really stood out when I first saw it on a review. So far, I've not really considered looks of TWS to be great designs until I saw this one. This design seems more fitting for Apple to put out as Apple tend to put out minimalistic designs.
 
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May 1, 2020 at 11:15 PM Post #21,699 of 70,815
I liked the sturdiness and feel of Galaxy buds in the ear, but if I compare strictly in terms of design, Pixel Buds just comes up on top. There's nothing that looks like it, and the minimalist design is so strikingly good looking and original. The design was what really stood out when I first saw it on a review. So far, I've not really considered looks of TWS to be great designs until I saw this one. This design seems more fitting for Apple to put out as Apple tend to put out minimalistic designs.

Yup. At first when i use these TWSs, i prefer the small and most stealthy look possible, so no one would notice I'm wearing it. But as experience goes, most people would engage in conversation with me without knowing I'm using a TWS, so i have to awkwardly remove one and ask the to repeat themselves..

Nowadays as TWS has become the norm in society anyways, i kinda prefer the XM3's big and visible look, as it screams "don't bother me, I'm listening to something right now" :k701smile:
 
May 2, 2020 at 12:08 AM Post #21,700 of 70,815
Thanks for that! I did actually order the Fiil T1x at the same time as the N6Pro, but they we're backordered until 5/15 so not here yet.

The WF-1000XM3 reviews on Amazon have been putting me off trying them, and I would get the refurbished ones for a great price except that it seems that sometimes they arrive stinky or dirty, and I don't someone else Coronavirus coming into my house on the XM3. Also, the reviews for the new XM3 are not any better than for the refurbished ones. And, at $230 for a new pair of XM3, I might rather spring for the MTW2, maybe returning the T1x to help pay the difference in cost.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but the FIILs sound much different than the XM3. They bring something to the table that you just can't get from the Sony's. I love my Sony's for phone calls, but I hate the ambient sound, it's soo bad. Sounds like i'm in a tunnel every time I use it. I def. think the echo buds, APPs and now the Jabra Elite 75t's which I just got an hour ago, have way better ambient modes. All around sound quality is great, but to me the sony's don't sound as realistic as the FIIL and the N6/N6pro. The XM3's are quite customizable with the app, but what I have noticed is that all the wide bore tips I like just kill the sub bass, so i switched to foam tips and the Auvio tips. Basically i'm saying, keep your FIIL's, they don't have all the features the Sony's do, but they are a sweet TWS.
 
May 2, 2020 at 12:09 AM Post #21,701 of 70,815
How come no discussion of the new Pixel Buds?
Yeah, I saw this floating around. The best TWS design I've seen yet. I really like the look of the just a white dot as the earpiece. Terrific looking design. Too bad no ANC, and no idea about sound.

Yeah, I love the design. This must be the first time I liked a white pair of TWSs. Even though I'm not really pumped about the shape of the case, the black case would be okay, I guess.
 
May 2, 2020 at 3:42 AM Post #21,702 of 70,815
This may be an unpopular opinion, but the FIILs sound much different than the XM3. They bring something to the table that you just can't get from the Sony's. I love my Sony's for phone calls, but I hate the ambient sound, it's soo bad. Sounds like i'm in a tunnel every time I use it. I def. think the echo buds, APPs and now the Jabra Elite 75t's which I just got an hour ago, have way better ambient modes. All around sound quality is great, but to me the sony's don't sound as realistic as the FIIL and the N6/N6pro. The XM3's are quite customizable with the app, but what I have noticed is that all the wide bore tips I like just kill the sub bass, so i switched to foam tips and the Auvio tips. Basically i'm saying, keep your FIIL's, they don't have all the features the Sony's do, but they are a sweet TWS.

Looking forward to the N6Pro (working) and to trying the FIIL T1X. Actually, another great "realistic" sounding budget TWS is the Pamu Scroll, which I got on Indegogo back in October 2018 for $45. They are simply Amazing for the price, and better sounding than the Crazy Baby Air that cost a bit more (and I lost the Air).

My main complaint is that the scroll case is larger than I'd like for my pocket, and they have similar battery drain issues as my MTW, where if you don't use them for a while and you go to use them you will the battery will be depleted. They do have a neat wireless Qi adapter that plugs into the micro-USB so you can leave them sitting on a desktop wireless charger to top them off (but it stands upright and can topple over if you bump the table).

My APP have fantastic ambient mode and ANC, but just like to fall out or make my ear canals itch too easily. The other problem is that with the 2C54 firmware they sound bad without ANC or Ambient mode turned on, where using them in passive plain Jane mode worse sound quality after the update (more bland and dull unless ANC or transparency is turned on, and they get more lively with more bass EQ). Even then, the MTW are simply better sounding - more transparent and more spacious.

[edit - mode NOT models, thanks autocorrupt]
 
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May 2, 2020 at 7:47 AM Post #21,703 of 70,815
How come no discussion of the new Pixel Buds?
Yeah, I saw this floating around. The best TWS design I've seen yet. I really like the look of the just a white dot as the earpiece. Terrific looking design. Too bad no ANC, and no idea about sound.
haven't watched MR Mobile's review, but i have read a couple reviews from sites that dable in audio reviews but mostly do phone/tablet reviews. i feel like they described he sound as just meh. All the reviews, all 3 i've seen i mean, spend a lot mor time talking about the google assistent features, wireless charging etc. curious what people start saying once mor have them. i get 25% off google products through my work, and that's even though it isn't much of a factor, is the biggest one working in the pixelbuds2020's favor for me lol.
 

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