Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Dec 10, 2019 at 6:04 AM Post #17,026 of 62,439
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Dec 10, 2019 at 6:45 AM Post #17,027 of 62,439
i have those Padear looking ones in blue and they are unnecessary bulky and do not come close to the x12 sound... there is another open design one I like, let me find that link for you

These
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/oiQ8jqIFt

they sit very nice in ear and I do like how they sound, but also not x12 level.
Just get another x12 for 30$, see my post above (you can apply 2x2$ select coupons)

I might get a white / blue one as backup :wink:

there's also this
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/38ckSme8
that suspiciously almost all of the reviewers are women
 
Dec 10, 2019 at 7:00 AM Post #17,028 of 62,439
I've had the Tronsmart Spunky Beat 1st version without volume control, and now owns the new version.

My experiences:
- The new version has less mid bass, more "balanced" sound (I think)
- It still has VERY annoying blinking lights on both buds, which really light up a dark room :triportsad: Annoying if I use them with my LG OLED (AptX BT) in my bedroom, with only the tv on. Can't use them there anyway, cause I get a little audio lag so...
- The volume up is 3 taps on the LEFT bud :triportsad:
- Next track is on the LEFT bud :triportsad:

On both versions the touch controls are really easy to activate, so there's a lot of play/pause/Siri when putting them in/taking them out of the ear.

Anyways, with the sound quality, codec support and good fit, they still are a decent set of buds for about $20.
Shame that Tronsmart didn’t resolve the issues. Even while they state there are no blinking lights anymore, on the product page.

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Meanwhile, I published my Lypertek Tevi review. Thanks for the feedback, all!
 
Dec 10, 2019 at 9:26 AM Post #17,030 of 62,439
Hey I've been reading this thread for weeks trying to learn as much as I can before buying my first pair of true wireless buds.

I usually listen to music with V-Moda M100s which I love dearly but would like some TW in-ears for running and working out, as well as just for when I don't have the big headphones on me.

Have spent some hours in shops trying out different ones. Been leaning strongly towards MW07 (probably Go). They definitely don't sound like the M100 but that would be impossible for any in-ear I think, but they do sound good and I wouldn't mind a different sound signature for variety anyway.

The other day I was doing long A-B testing against the JBL Free-X. The JBL had noticeably deeper bass though not quite the same impact on kick drum.

One question I have for anyone who's spent some time with the MW07 (and especially the new models) is about connection dropouts. It never happened to me in the shop but I read a couple reviews that mentioned that as an issue. Is that a thing?
 
Dec 10, 2019 at 9:26 AM Post #17,031 of 62,439
there's also this
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/38ckSme8
that suspiciously almost all of the reviewers are women

Speaking of more / other semi in ear TWE

There is (was?) another one, which I actually have (in black, not that porn-red) and they are pretty snazzy, but with the outer part so big, they don't sit too stable when moving.
I think I had expected more regarding the sound as they allegedly have a 13mm driver.

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Dec 10, 2019 at 9:40 AM Post #17,032 of 62,439
1. APP : 10
2. Amazon Echo Buds : 9
3. Libratone Track Air+ : 8
3. Jabra 65T (haven't tried the 75Ts) : 8
4. Sony WF-1000xm3 : 6
5. Sony WF-1000x : 2

Sabbat X12's "natural" transparency : 10

Thanks! How does the SQ rank on list above? I have the SSK and T1x for comparison. Love the lively sound of the SSK for classic rock and the T1x for when I want a little more full bass at the gym.
 
Dec 10, 2019 at 9:57 AM Post #17,033 of 62,439
there's also this
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/38ckSme8
that suspiciously almost all of the reviewers are women

And I JUST found another semi in ear that I have not seen before. At this price they just HAVE to suck. But also, at that price I am quite tempted!

Those are the first semi in ears I see with Powerbeat style hooks!!! This could / should be fantastic for runners! (If they deliver at least somewhat ok sound)

and a first I see in case design: double sided madness :wink:

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even has volume control on that single MFB!

Not ordering just yet, will sleep on it first :wink:
 
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Dec 10, 2019 at 11:27 AM Post #17,034 of 62,439
I just received an e-mail from Tranya. They were going to send me another pair of Rimor's because I gave them an honest review on amazon and they thought my pair might be defective. The e-mail from Ida says they are still working on debugging the sound and a new version will release at the end of Dec. This is great news, I really disliked the Rimor's tuning.
 
Dec 10, 2019 at 12:56 PM Post #17,035 of 62,439
Test with SSK again? Last time you mentioned you felt like moses emerging from a desert of thin mids - were you referring to the T1X or bomaker?
I did. My comparisons are somewhere earlier in the thread. the T1x is very similar to the ssk, with a more narrow soundstage, but I think it does a little better in the clarity dept.
 
Dec 10, 2019 at 1:15 PM Post #17,036 of 62,439
Quick update on my Air Pod Pro impressions. I decided to eq them in spotify and WOW!!!! I'm shocked how good they sound once i cranked up the bass and highs. I'm really blown away. Note, you won't get incredible bass with ANC or Transparency mode on. Now if apple would of just included an eq for them we'd have a real winner. To me they are better in every aspect than the XM3's, I will admit the ANC is very close and depending on the tips you use on the sony, the ambient clarity gets louder/softer etc. I really hope sony does a firmware to boost it. Another observation i've made is I can't get the sony's to sound great unless i'm using their tips. I don't have any spinfits to try, but the spiral dots bring more clarity but reduce the bass. The sony tips really enhance the sound of the bass, but make the mids sound thin. shrug. Anway. I think with EQ the Air Pods Pro might be worth the price point.
 
Dec 10, 2019 at 1:22 PM Post #17,037 of 62,439
Quick update on my Air Pod Pro impressions. I decided to eq them in spotify and WOW!!!! I'm shocked how good they sound once i cranked up the bass and highs. I'm really blown away. Note, you won't get incredible bass with ANC or Transparency mode on. Now if apple would of just included an eq for them we'd have a real winner. To me they are better in every aspect than the XM3's, I will admit the ANC is very close and depending on the tips you use on the sony, the ambient clarity gets louder/softer etc. I really hope sony does a firmware to boost it. Another observation i've made is I can't get the sony's to sound great unless i'm using their tips. I don't have any spinfits to try, but the spiral dots bring more clarity but reduce the bass. The sony tips really enhance the sound of the bass, but make the mids sound thin. shrug. Anway. I think with EQ the Air Pods Pro might be worth the price point.
Just boost to a v shape?
 
Dec 10, 2019 at 1:37 PM Post #17,038 of 62,439
Quick update on my Air Pod Pro impressions. I decided to eq them in spotify and WOW!!!! I'm shocked how good they sound once i cranked up the bass and highs. I'm really blown away. Note, you won't get incredible bass with ANC or Transparency mode on. Now if apple would of just included an eq for them we'd have a real winner. To me they are better in every aspect than the XM3's, I will admit the ANC is very close and depending on the tips you use on the sony, the ambient clarity gets louder/softer etc. I really hope sony does a firmware to boost it. Another observation i've made is I can't get the sony's to sound great unless i'm using their tips. I don't have any spinfits to try, but the spiral dots bring more clarity but reduce the bass. The sony tips really enhance the sound of the bass, but make the mids sound thin. shrug. Anway. I think with EQ the Air Pods Pro might be worth the price point.


I tried to do the same, but still felt that highs sounded weird and the bass lacked extension. I was able to compare side-by-side with the L2Ps recently and it's not even close imo. I do think the APPs sound pretty decent overall, and have an above-average midrange, but after listening to them for 14 days I just couldn't justify the price-point and returned them. The MW07s, T1Xs, MPOW T5s, and Tevis all sound better to my ears. Though as far as I can remember, I think the APPs might sound slightly better than the 1more stylish. Overall, I still really loved their convenience. They're the best for lifestyle features hands down right now and in many ways are a technological marvel. I still don't understand how they were able to get such solid noise cancelling and transparency features in such a small package.
 
Dec 10, 2019 at 1:55 PM Post #17,039 of 62,439
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Just boost to a v shape?
Pretty much.
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FBED956E-E3F8-4E8E-AD46-A8BB748AD3E0.jpegHere’s another one that sounds good to me too


I tried to do the same, but still felt that highs sounded weird and the bass lacked extension. I was able to compare side-by-side with the L2Ps recently and it's not even close imo. I do think the APPs sound pretty decent overall, and have an above-average midrange, but after listening to them for 14 days I just couldn't justify the price-point and returned them. The MW07s, T1Xs, MPOW T5s, and Tevis all sound better to my ears. Though as far as I can remember, I think the APPs might sound slightly better than the 1more stylish. Overall, I still really loved their convenience. They're the best for lifestyle features hands down right now and in many ways are a technological marvel. I still don't understand how they were able to get such solid noise cancelling and transparency features in such a small package.
Have you verified you have ANC and transparency off? No, they definitely don’t have the bass extension of the liberty 2 Pro, but I think they have a lot more bass on the T1X, M5, SSK etc.
 
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