Nov 23, 2019 at 7:15 AM Post #15,991 of 70,874
Guys, with all the talk about the Liberty 2 pros and the sweet discount, should i go for it if i already have the mpow t5 and tronsmart spunky beats? Its for the gym and I don't need audiophile level sound quality as I have another set of gear for that. Good connectivity and reasonably good sound to get through the workouts would be fine.
 
Nov 23, 2019 at 7:17 AM Post #15,992 of 70,874
Order placed for my first TWS....the L2P deal is too good to pass up. It was between them, the Lypertek Tevi, Aukey T10, and 1 more Stylish.

Me too! been using the T5 but want something better. I've just ordered from US L2P via Planet exp works out at approx £97 GBP including expected UK customs saving me £53 versus ordering from UK. Haha thanks for the thread contributions guys appreciated!
 
Nov 23, 2019 at 8:10 AM Post #15,994 of 70,874
When using AirPods Pro with ANC at the gym, I realized how important it is to cancel out background noise to hear the the sound clearly though the earphones. You can have some good sounding TW at the gym with seal, but still the sound is masked without ANC(noise isolation isn't all that effective). So, ANC causes increase in fidelity and comparatively causes better SQ in ambient noise environments.

Reducing noise increases fidelity, and this is part of the reason why custom iems work well. I've had custom iems as well that isolates extremely well, and low frequency noise still isn't effectively reduced to the level of ANC. I'd rather take AirPods Pro over customs for convenience. No wires, reduces noise, simpler to take off and put on.
 
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Nov 23, 2019 at 8:23 AM Post #15,995 of 70,874
Got the Liberty Pro 2 the other day, and after a few listening sessions, I have noticed a few issues:

1. Volume output is much lower than my Anbes. I have to set it to 80% to match Anbes at 50 or 60%.
2. Finding it quite difficult to get a good seal (which may explain my volume issue).

I've tried all of the wings and a few of the tips, but still haven't found the right match for me. Anyone else struggle with these issues? This is on a OnePlus 7 Pro phone btw.
 
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Nov 23, 2019 at 8:29 AM Post #15,996 of 70,874
Guys, with all the talk about the Liberty 2 pros and the sweet discount, should i go for it if i already have the mpow t5 and tronsmart spunky beats? Its for the gym and I don't need audiophile level sound quality as I have another set of gear for that. Good connectivity and reasonably good sound to get through the workouts would be fine.

Have same question. How good are these for sweaty workouts? It's either L2P or Mpow T5 for me, and even with the amazing deal right now, the Mpow T5 are like half the price (and IPX7).
 
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Nov 23, 2019 at 8:30 AM Post #15,997 of 70,874
Don't have the L2Ps but while I like the M5/T5s for general use they don't hold that well when you're active and even less when you're sweaty. For that type of use you really need "wings" in my experience so that the seal doesn't break regularly with the annoying requirement to have to push them back in and irritate your ears in the process. When you're not active just remove the wings if you "feel" them ;-) You can do that with the Echo Buds for instance.

Yes, the OOTB the 75t is a bassheads dream, but is easily set to ones desired preference via the app. True, there is less passive reduction than the 65t as it fills the entire concha whereas the 75t fills about half. With the proper seal, this is a none-issue while listening at normal levels.

Thanks for the info, I hadn't realized they had reduced the internal size too, I thought it was only the mic "tip" on the outside. That's not good news as it will indeed reduce isolation and likely its ability to "stay in place" when being active and sweaty. I really don't get the point of making the smallest possible TWE apart from the "challenge" and "hype "aspect...
 
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Nov 23, 2019 at 9:36 AM Post #15,999 of 70,874
Are chifi clones of the Airpods Pro available in matte black yet? Don't care about ANC, just want the small qi charging case and a comfortable 1:1 clone of the earpiece.
Tons of white ones, but have not seen color variants yet ... just a question of time, but I guess they are betting all their horses for now on the buyers who want the thing that looks exactly like the real thing ...

Pastel colors (and yes, black) will show up soon enough when a certain saturation point is met (and price dwindles to 20$)
 
Nov 23, 2019 at 9:40 AM Post #16,000 of 70,874
Spent a good hour at the earphone store today trying the recent sets of true wireless earphones.

I tried the new Sony noise canceling first, and thought they sounded great. I was not impressed with the fit and the noise cancelling though. I had a hard time getting the seamless fit I got to expect from true wireless earphones on the demo unit they had. It was a lot of fiddling, and I felt like I didn't have the best seal. The ANC was working and I could tell, but it was nowhere near as good as what I am used to with over-ear sets or the Bose QC20 in the loud store. It still doesn't hold a candle to my ER4XRs with small comply tips, which seem to erase more sound, especially the sound of people talking or music playing in the background.

I tried the Klipsche set, and was expecting to love it, since I really enjoy the comfort of the X series, but I didn't. The sound is decent, top of the line for true wireless, but the fit was not good. The oval ear tips were not comfortable with all that weight pulling down on them. The stems were too big and the buds themselves were kind of floating. The X series are better and probably take up less space stored than the huge case they went with.

The Noble Falcons were great. The case is a little flatter than the Sabbat case. The fit was comfortable. Sound was also top class, everything sounded very good, with excellent imaging.

The best set I tried though was the Galaxy Buds. The case was the smallest, the easiest to carry, the fit was perfect, and the sound hit all the sweet spots. The best balance of sound and features. They were super comfortable too.

Overall, I didn't hear anything that warranted me to replace my Nuarls. I felt like the Falcons and the Galaxy buds were about the same level as far as audio quality goes, imaging and soundstage wise, but with less heavy sub-bass.

The only fault I have with the Nuarls is the ever so small white noise in really quiet settings at home, but that is something I can't notice in a noisy store.

I though I would love noise cancelling, but it somehow did not feel as magical as when I tried the QC20 or the QC35 for the first time. Maybe if I used it on the train or with the traffic my opinion would change, but I didn't feel like I needed it at the level.
 
Nov 23, 2019 at 9:46 AM Post #16,001 of 70,874
Spent a good hour at the earphone store today trying the recent sets of true wireless earphones.

I tried the new Sony noise canceling first, and thought they sounded great. I was not impressed with the fit and the noise cancelling though. I had a hard time getting the seamless fit I got to expect from true wireless earphones on the demo unit they had. It was a lot of fiddling, and I felt like I didn't have the best seal. The ANC was working and I could tell, but it was nowhere near as good as what I am used to with over-ear sets or the Bose QC20 in the loud store. It still doesn't hold a candle to my ER4XRs with small comply tips, which seem to erase more sound, especially the sound of people talking or music playing in the background.

I tried the Klipsche set, and was expecting to love it, since I really enjoy the comfort of the X series, but I didn't. The sound is decent, top of the line for true wireless, but the fit was not good. The oval ear tips were not comfortable with all that weight pulling down on them. The stems were too big and the buds themselves were kind of floating. The X series are better and probably take up less space stored than the huge case they went with.

The Noble Falcons were great. The case is a little flatter than the Sabbat case. The fit was comfortable. Sound was also top class, everything sounded very good, with excellent imaging.

The best set I tried though was the Galaxy Buds. The case was the smallest, the easiest to carry, the fit was perfect, and the sound hit all the sweet spots. The best balance of sound and features. They were super comfortable too.

Overall, I didn't hear anything that warranted me to replace my Nuarls. I felt like the Falcons and the Galaxy buds were about the same level as far as audio quality goes, imaging and soundstage wise, but with less heavy sub-bass.

The only fault I have with the Nuarls is the ever so small white noise in really quiet settings at home, but that is something I can't notice in a noisy store.

I though I would love noise cancelling, but it somehow did not feel as magical as when I tried the QC20 or the QC35 for the first time. Maybe if I used it on the train or with the traffic my opinion would change, but I didn't feel like I needed it at the level.
I did a comparison of AirPods Pro with QC20 for ANC in the train and noisy food courts, and AirPods Pro came up top. I have a different QC20 unit currently than before, and wondering if there are possible unit variations of ANC performance of the QC20?

It's too bad because I want QC20 to be better due to the log battery life of 16 whopping hrs ANC, but it's wired, not true wireless. With the AirPods Pro, I don't like the limit of 4.5hrs with ANC on, as there maybe cases I need a longer duration of usage. As for gym usage, more than enough.

In general, I think TW coming with charging cases help a lot since there arn't many scenarios you will be listening beyond 4.5 hrs without putting it in the case, charging.
 
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Nov 23, 2019 at 10:55 AM Post #16,003 of 70,874
Yes they lack "crispness" and the same "punch" in the mids and highs. I think they've been hyped a bit too much on here...I don't find myself using them much anymore now that I have the much better, much more feature rich (and more expensive) Amazon Echo Buds !
Yeah I guess Music Genres also matters as I listen to stuffs from Steely Dan, Fleetwood Mac, EW&F, Toto and also some Jazz. So i appreciate a little more highs.
On a side note, I'm waiting for the Aliexpress Black friday sales to grab the L2P. Hope I'm lucky to get a version 3 or one without the infamous hiss!
 
Nov 23, 2019 at 11:03 AM Post #16,004 of 70,874
Alright guys, here is my review of the Anker Soundcore Liberty 2 Pros after about 5 days of use:

As per usual, going to go into everything in detail, but I can say right off the bat that the Liberty 2 Pros to me are clearly among the best TWS out there on the market right now. For $150 (though you can knock them down to about $119 on Amazon right now with the promo code JERRYL2P), I really think this is some of the best sound you can get on TWS at the moment. While they're on the bigger side in terms of form factor, and have a very slight hiss in the background (which is barely noticeable for the most part), the sound quality, comfort, stable connectivity, good battery life, and even great phone call quality more than make up for these slight deficiencies.

Sound Quality: Based on sound quality alone, the Liberty 2 Pros are absolute beasts. These things completely live up to the "Pro" moniker in their name, unlike certain products from some other fruit-based brands out there... In fact, every time I put these things in my ears I feel like I'm actually wearing a piece of professional audio equipment. Everything the Liberty 2 Pros play, they do so with authority and confidence. They have a forward, in your face sound, with a slightly U-shaped signature, but also one that does not lack in refinement and detail. It really makes you want to re-listen to music in your library that you've heard 1000 times, just to hear how it sounds on these. To let you guys know, I tried almost every EQ setting on these and there are a bunch of good ones - e.g. Piano and Acoustic - but I settled on Vocal Booster which seemed to bring the mids to life a bit, reduced the bass slightly, and balanced out the sound nicely. As a result, my evaluation of the sound was done while using the Vocal Booster EQ preset. While the Liberty 2 Pros definitely have a few small issues that I will discuss below, I have not heard a TWS in this price range (or even a few notches above) that rivals the sound that these are able to pump out.

Bass: The Liberty 2 Pros are bass monsters. The bass is beefy, resonant, deep and punchy. It envelopes the eardrum and really makes you feel something, particularly on electronic, modern hip-hop, rock, EDM, reggae, and even jazz tracks that allow the bass to shine. While it is relatively loose and wide, it also manages to be pretty damn clean. It is just so fun to experience such a resonant bass experience on TWS. I would go as far as to say that I have not heard anything in the TWS world, besides maybe the Sennheiser MTWs (which are a bit smoother and more accurate in the bass), that are able to replicate the Liberty 2 Pros' combination of quality and power in the low end. A couple things that I will say here is that sometimes it can be slightly too much and lack a tiny bit of detail in more refined classical works or in slightly poorer-quality recordings. This is particularly evidenced with solo piano music, where sometimes the lower piano notes lose a bit of their attack. Further, on some older hip-hop tracks, such as with a Tribe Called Quest, I did feel that the bass was sometimes a little on the strong side for my liking. The good thing though is that the bass does not bleed into the other frequencies ranges despite its strength, and has phenomenal extension and rumble for TWS. Overall, just epic bass response here.

Mids: When I first started listening to the Liberty 2 Pros, I did feel that the mids were a bit pulled back in the mix. However, the EQ settings that come with the companion app are actually really solid and were able to remedy this issue. On the Acoustic, Piano, and Vocal Booster settings, the mids become much more prominent. Further, once they are brought out a bit, you start to realize that the mids are actually fantastic. Both male and female vocals sound excellent, with good detail, emotion, and breathiness. Actually, the overall detail retrieval in the mid-range is great. Brass, cellos and violas, mid-range drums, woodwinds, and especially guitars (guitars sound fantastic on these) sound rich and are excellently portrayed. I would not say this is a super natural or hyper-realistic midrange (like you'll find on some higher grade wired headphones, or even on the MW07s), as it does sound a little colored. However, it still is highly enjoyable to listen to.

Highs: The highs on the Liberty 2 Pros are just fantastic for this price and also given that in general TWS often struggle with highs due to the complexities that come along with compressing higher range frequencies over bluetooth. The BA drivers are really doing their job here in rendering crispy cymbals and high-hats, smooth high-range vocals, and pinpoint bleeps and bloops heard in a lot of modern hip-hop and EDM. Reggae sounds particularly great on these in my opinion, as the percussion is able to really stand out and form a great stage. The detail retrieval overall in the highs is very good, though I still do think that the Lypertek Tevis are tops in terms of highs on a mid-range TWS. Also, the MW07s very slightly edge these out in terms of pure detail, though I do think these can be a bit less "hot" in the treble for the most part, and are therefore sometimes easier to listen to for extended periods of time. When compared side by side to the Tevis, the Liberty 2 Pros produce a little more of a compressed sound when it comes to cymbal decay, however the actual hit of the cymbal and detail of the sound is certainly there. On the whole, somewhat surprisingly, the highs really get the job done here and just add to the overall high-quality sound experience.

Soundstage/Imaging: For a pair of TWS, the soundstage is actually very good. These have a nice spaciousness to the sound, highlighted by an expansive low-end. While not super wide, the instrument separation is top-notch, as the frequency ranges never seem to step over each other. Imaging is also pretty accurate, and you get a real sense of a stage-like presentation because of it. It's not some crazy huge stage, but at least you can sort of picture it when you close your eyes. In the end, I never felt like the music was closed in, and to me that's an accomplishment on a set of mid-range TWS.

Overall, the sound on these things is so damn good. It certainly rivals that of much more expensive competitors. I can't imagine what else you could ask for out of a set of $150 (or less) TWS earbuds. I really just love listening to music on them. There is one small thing I do need to address here. There is a slight background hiss at very low volumes that most obviously presents itself right before a song or a video is about to play. However, I really don't notice it at all when listening to music, or even when listening to a podcast. Regardless, I'll take this level of sound quality for this price with a slight background hiss any day of the week.

Look/Fit: Going back to what I said before, it really feels like you're wearing some real audio equipment when you put the Liberty 2 Pros on. They feel substantial and utilitarian. They definitely stick out a bit from the ears and are a little bulky, but I actually don't mind how they look too much. They kind of just look like old bluetooth headsets, and since that look has pretty much been normalized throughout the years, I don't feel ridiculous walking around in these. I also found them to be surprisingly comfortable given their size and the fact that I have small ears. There are so many ear-tips and wing-tips to choose from that you're bound to find a good fit. That being said, I wouldn't say these are the most comfortable on the market (see Airpods Pro), but I am still able to wear them for long periods of time without too much fatigue.

Extra Features: Unfortunately, these don't have ANC or pass-through modes, which I actually missed more than I thought I would in the first day of testing. I really liked these features on the Airpods Pro, particularly when on the subway (ANC) or when trying to talk to people at a coffee shop (Transparency). However, I quickly got over it and now appreciate the good seal that these are able to provide. On the plus side, the app is really great, with excellent EQ settings that make a real difference in the sound, and I really like the ability to customize the controls. Regarding the controls, if you're willing to sacrifice the Previous Track function, you can control everything else with the buds. Right now I have it so a double press on the left is Volume Down, double press on the right is Volume Up, long press on the left is Smart-Assistant, and long press on the right is Next Track. Since I don't use the Previous Track function very often, this works just fine for me.

Battery: Battery life is great. I left them out and played them at 80% volume for about 6 hours and still had 30% battery to spare when I picked them up again. Also, the fast charging on the case is very good, as about a 10-15 minute pop in the case charged them up from about 40% to 80% (approx. an extra 2-3 hours of playtime).

Case: I really liked the case on these actually. While it's not the smallest, it has a nice thin oval shape to it that fits in a pocket without too much bulge. It's also got a smooth texture to it, and the satisfying one-handed opening mechanism has turned the case into a bit of a fidget-spinner for me. I also don't feel a rush to have to keep recharging it, as I've only had to charge it up once this week. Not the best, but certainly not the worst, and they've done a good job given that the earbuds themselves are on the larger side.

Microphone/Calls: This really surprised me. I was expecting the microphone to be pretty mediocre, but actually these are 100% usable even in a noisy NYC environment. I have received almost no complaints, even when the wind has picked up, though people have occasionally asked me to repeat myself. That being said, they have not complained about loud sirens going off in the background, which is my #1 test of a good mic. Really great, perhaps not Airpods Pro or MW07+ level, but way better than expected.

Connectivity: Really top-notch connectivity. The Liberty 2 Pros support both Apt-X and AAC codecs and held a rock solid connection with both my iPhone and Windows computer. Very happy with the bluetooth transmission. On maybe one or two occasions I heard some track skipping when connected to my Windows computer, but overall very solid. The one thing is that switching between devices was slightly tedious, as you have to turn off bluetooth on one device to connect with a second and vice-versa, but this is a pretty minor inconvenience when you look at the overall package here.

Conclusion: The Liberty 2 Pros are some of my favorite TWS that I've tried so far and I've tried an absolute ton of them. They are no doubt among the best in terms of sound quality, while also excelling in the key areas that you look for in a quality set of TWS. If you're not a fan at all of a bassy sound signature, perhaps these might not be for you, but even then the bass is just so awesome that you may just like hearing certain types of bass-centric music on them. Also, there is a Bass-Reducer EQ preset in the app if you need. On the other hand, if you like headphones with a deep resonant bass that also manage to maintain good quality and clarity in the mid to high frequency ranges, I highly recommend that you check these out. The price is also very fair for what you're getting, making the Liberty 2 Pros a great value purchase. All in all, these are a definite keeper for me.

Thanks for the very detailed review of L2P! I have now decided to get it over the LA 2.
Have you tried watching videos (Youtube, netflix etc) with this on your iphone? Do they lag?
 
Nov 23, 2019 at 1:07 PM Post #16,005 of 70,874
Thanks for the very detailed review of L2P! I have now decided to get it over the LA 2.
Have you tried watching videos (Youtube, netflix etc) with this on your iphone? Do they lag?

Yup! No lag at all. Also you can get it for $87 on their website rn with the code JERRYL2P. Great deal, considering that imo they're worth it for $150.
 
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