[itshot]

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Silver cable definitely works; I have the silver ray and there is noticeable extra brilliance up top and more presence in vocals (= more upper mids). Soundstage is less concave, too.
 
Unfortunately, the bass, which was already pretty fast (the one aspect a silver cable can improve), still has a mahousive hump in 100-200Hz range, bleeding all over the frigging place. Fiio X3 with 100Hz bass cut looks pretty attractive to this C4 owner...
 

I'd agree with you there about the soundsstage, mids, and the treble. Though I'm not sure if I'd phrase the quality of the bass the way you did though. I would say its more of a prominence as opposed to it "bleeding all over the frigging place". I like that blend of warmth and clarity that the C4+SPC offers, but of course that's just me.
 
If it matters to you the TF10 airline adapter (100ohm thingy) does somewhat tame the bass and offers a tad bit more "brilliance up top".
 
@eve: I have the SPC hybrid, and I confirmed with Ted that he uses the SPC as the lead and the copper as the ground. So I'm thinking that the hybrid and all SPC would be the same. I recommend just getting the all SPC cable because the copper bits in cable are already going green... #What

 

[itshot]

Speaking of SPC cables... fiio has has their own 26awg SPC cable for $30 now! I wish I knew about this earlier lol... if this cable performs as well as Ted's, I'd buy them in a heartbeat.
 
http://www.mp4nation.net/fiio-rc-wt1-silver-plated-re-cable-for-westone-um3xrc-w4r-jh13-jh16

 

[EveTan]

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Speaking of SPC cables... fiio has has their own 26awg SPC cable for $30 now! I wish I knew about this earlier lol... if this cable performs as well as Ted's, I'd buy them in a heartbeat.
 
http://www.mp4nation.net/fiio-rc-wt1-silver-plated-re-cable-for-westone-um3xrc-w4r-jh13-jh16

I've heard that Fiio cables break down really easily and aren't worth the trouble.

 

[Hawaiiancerveza]

Which site did you guys go to order the C4's?  The one I found says they are about $900+.  Not oo long ago they were only about $800+.  Have they gone up that much already in price?

 

[EveTan]

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Which site did you guys go to order the C4's?  The one I found says they are about $900+.  Not oo long ago they were only about $800+.  Have they gone up that much already in price?

They were originally $900. Price might be currency fluctuations. Or it could be that they no longer have the 5%/10% discount.

 

[Hawaiiancerveza]

I see.  Thanks.  Is this the site?  
 
http://shop.frogbeats.com/frogbeats-c4-34

 

[EveTan]

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I see.  Thanks.  Is this the site?  
 
http://shop.frogbeats.com/frogbeats-c4-34

Yes. I should warn you of particularly long wait times. Just saying.

 

[Hawaiiancerveza]

Has anyone done the rush orders???  I thought I read a few people who did and they said they got them within a few weeks?  Or am I just hoping this?

 

[23t23dS]

^Took three weeks (including one over the Chinese New Year though)

 

[Hawaiiancerveza]

I'm assuming you did the rush order?  Sorry I haven't been in the thread for a while and don't remember who said what.  
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^Took three weeks (including one over the Chinese New Year though)

 

[23t23dS]

Yup thats right

I'm assuming you did the rush order?  Sorry I haven't been in the thread for a while and don't remember who said what.  

 

[Hawaiiancerveza]

How are you liking it so far?

 

[23t23dS]

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How are you liking it so far?

On the whole I'm still very pleased with them. I've been using them almost daily since I got them. 

 

[Hawaiiancerveza]

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On the whole I'm still very pleased with them. I've been using them almost daily since I got them. 

Nice have you done a review on them? or your impressions?

 

[DutchDoctor]

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Cool, thanks for the tip, itshot. Do you have any links to appropriate resistors?
 
 
I'm not sure if this is directed at uelover or me. For what it's worth... in my opinion, there is only ONE interpretation of neutral. That is: Technically Neutral, in other words - flat FR and fast drivers (short decay) across the spectrum. OK so there is some lee-way given the recording equipment and the ears of the mastering engineer. But if you've listened to enough mixing sessions (I work in broadcast post production so take a dubbing suite running ProTools via a 192 into good monitors eg Genelecs as my reference), you know what neutral means.
 
If people have their own tastes and preferences, that's fine, but there is no question as to 'neutrality'. In my case, I prefer a more treble-y sound compared to the average joe on the street. I do not, however, let this personal preference influence my understanding of 'neutral'.
 
Sorry if this sounds like a mini-rant, but I am sick and tired of reading poorly written reviews etc, in which words like 'neutral' are used not so much for their specific meanings, but rather as a generic compliment (ie 'neutral' = I like this sound because I have awesome ears and the internet tells me awesome ears appreciates flatness). Ugh.

 
 
Thank god I dug a little deeper into this thread. Like yourself, LFFs initial review (plus a few comments I was seeing) had me choosing the CR4 over the UERM. And I would was presently weighing up the risks of going with a startup company that has had less than ideal turn around and customer service. I'm an audio engineer too, and I really struggle with a lot of the subjective opinion on this forum. I agree with you about what "neutral" or "flat" really is. It has nothing to do with personal taste or preference.
 
I'm looking to purchase my first Custom IEM for the main purposes of Mixing/Mastering music, both live and in studio. Would you recommend the UERM? Or is there something else out there?
Thanks for your time.