Man, here we go again, im going to stop after this but....Sony ex1000 and hifiman he4 both destroy anything the t50/t60 driver could ever hope to be, IMHO. It's a cheap driver, that is capable of greatness but let's not pretend it's the king of all kings here. And don't pretend Fostex doesnt over price their gear, this t60 is overpriced for what it is, and the th900, well, it's overpriced. Hifiman is on a different level of over charging the last few years, I'll agree on that, and would not buy anything new from them personally. Focal is obviously doing similar strategy charging 4k for the utopia, which is insane. But, still, Theres a good chunk of hifiman phones that will best the t50/t60 all day. And it's not them "noising" up the signal to fake resolution. The he4 literally demolishes everything the t50 driver is capable of, on the right setup. That's a $300 hp, cheaper than this t60. Open vs closed so there's an apples for oranges issue here but still. Fostex has also steadily resold the t50rp driver over the last decade increasingly charging more without doing much, they are no different. They have never drastically redisigned the driver past what alot of us have done on our own modding. Not sure why I'm even on this thread responding to hype train comments anymore but I am, going to leave after this one though. We all like what we like and I'll chalk this one up to agreeing to disagree.