Actually, I've very active on that other forum and here. There are folks there that like other headphones more than the utopia, just like here. There are a-holes there just like here. They are a much smaller community and generally well informed, but their tolerance for (forum) noise is very low.
As for the utopia and measurements, I know that Tyl likes warmer headphones than I do, so if they sound "right" to him, they will be too warm for me. I was surprised I liked the utopia as much as I do, and now it makes sense. That said, I'm leaning heavily towards my TH900 as my main headphones. I like them as much as the utopia, and it think through a good tube amp with good tubes, both sound awesome. I have a decision to make
Another interesting note. The price of used utopias had dropped below $3000. $2800ish seems to be the going price now.