Focal Utopia General Discussion
Jan 22, 2021 at 1:43 PM Post #13,861 of 20,644
Are those cables really an upgrade? The stock cable looks so solid and isn't it expensive as well when you have to replace it? Additionally the margin on those aftermarket cables should be a lot higher and isn't the headphone tuned for the stock cable?
Headphones aren't tuned for a particular cable. Cables as tuning devices are rather crude, typically rolling off one frequency extreme or the other. That said, cables can make an audible difference, which is sometimes perceived as an improvement. Whether the benefit is worth the cost is strictly a personal decision based on my factors.
 
Jan 22, 2021 at 2:15 PM Post #13,862 of 20,644
Headphones aren't tuned for a particular cable. Cables as tuning devices are rather crude, typically rolling off one frequency extreme or the other. That said, cables can make an audible difference, which is sometimes perceived as an improvement. Whether the benefit is worth the cost is strictly a personal decision based on my factors.

One could argue the the stock might be rolling off frequencies and better cable is actually more transparent. But I guess in the end it how it sounds.
 
Jan 22, 2021 at 3:04 PM Post #13,863 of 20,644
For the first time in my life, when listening to music with headphones, I do NOT miss the non-existent structure-borne sound 😳👌

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Jan 22, 2021 at 3:06 PM Post #13,864 of 20,644
B&W Signature with XLR 4 pin, ballanced 👍

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Jan 22, 2021 at 3:13 PM Post #13,866 of 20,644
I would not choose the Black Dragon again in combination with Utopia and solid-state gear again. The Black Dragon is silver-plated copper and tended to sound slightly sibilant and over-analytical in my setup.

Lazuli Reference and even more Crystal Cable Double Duet (=Silver/Gold) are the to go cables for the Utopia, imho. Also the new stock cable sounds quite good imo. It has a nice sounding in combination with the Utopia, even though it does not offer the ultimate resolution. It is also quite stiff, unfortunately.

Double without trouble 😜 Lol

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Jan 22, 2021 at 3:16 PM Post #13,867 of 20,644
When not using the stock cable I will use Moon Silver Dragon. It is more revealing but the stock is warmer.
 
Jan 22, 2021 at 3:24 PM Post #13,868 of 20,644
One could argue the the stock might be rolling off frequencies and better cable is actually more transparent. But I guess in the end it how it sounds.
Sure, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. The Danacable, in particular, is known to have very low impedance.
 
Jan 22, 2021 at 5:14 PM Post #13,869 of 20,644
Do you mean the Silver Dragon? The Black Dragon is all copper. Per Moon’s site:

the Black Dragon V2 cable uses 4 x 21.5AWG Teflon insulated stranded conductors using pure single crystallized UP-OCC pure copper with 7N purity 99.99998%.

Other than the fact that it is really 6-Nines, the cable is all copper. Tks.

Sorry, my mistake. Confused it with Black Dragon V2 IEM cables, which are silver plated copper.
Moon Audio Silver Dragon V2, Black DragonV2, Bronze Dragon Review - Headphone Guru

Nevertheless the Black Dragon headphone cable sounds brighter, thinner and more analytical than other 7N OCC copper cables to my ears. Do not get me wrong, this is a fine cable, but not my go-to cable for the Utopias.
 
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Jan 22, 2021 at 7:02 PM Post #13,870 of 20,644
I used to have the Utopias, but sold them a while back. Now, I’ve been getting the itch to buy another pair. I’m looking for a well rounded headphone to accompany all genres. I want an easier to drive set of headphones as well, so I can use them in different rooms with less powerful equipment. Plus, I want to hear how they sound on my WA33 EE JPS. :thinking:
 
Jan 22, 2021 at 9:58 PM Post #13,871 of 20,644
I used to have the Utopias, but sold them a while back. Now, I’ve been getting the itch to buy another pair. I’m looking for a well rounded headphone to accompany all genres. I want an easier to drive set of headphones as well, so I can use them in different rooms with less powerful equipment. Plus, I want to hear how they sound on my WA33 EE JPS. :thinking:
susvara, raal sr-1, abyss phi.
god damn, impressive

yeah the Utopia would be the only missing TOTL headphone.
 
Jan 23, 2021 at 1:45 PM Post #13,874 of 20,644
Jan 23, 2021 at 2:51 PM Post #13,875 of 20,644
Leaked early
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