+1 for the Black Dragon
Focal Utopia General Discussion
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xxx1313
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I would not choose the Black Dragon again in combination with Utopia and solid-state gear again. The Black Dragon is silver-plated copper and tended to sound slightly sibilant and over-analytical in my setup.
Lazuli Reference and even more Crystal Cable Double Duet (=Silver/Gold) are the to go cables for the Utopia, imho. Also the new stock cable sounds quite good imo. It has a nice sounding in combination with the Utopia, even though it does not offer the ultimate resolution. It is also quite stiff, unfortunately.
Lazuli Reference and even more Crystal Cable Double Duet (=Silver/Gold) are the to go cables for the Utopia, imho. Also the new stock cable sounds quite good imo. It has a nice sounding in combination with the Utopia, even though it does not offer the ultimate resolution. It is also quite stiff, unfortunately.
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Black dragon is copper, unless i’m mistaken
https://www.moon-audio.com/black-dragon-premium-cable-for-focal-utopia-headphones-v2.html
Are those cables really an upgrade? The stock cable looks so solid and isn't it expensive as well when you have to replace it? Additionally the margin on those aftermarket cables should be a lot higher and isn't the headphone tuned for the stock cable?
This description from Moon on the Black Dragon/Utopia pairing is bang on from my experience.
“It smooths out the top end, making it a little less analytical and a little more natural-sounding. It also adds bottom end weight to the lower frequencies and provides a fuller sound and wider soundstage.”
“It smooths out the top end, making it a little less analytical and a little more natural-sounding. It also adds bottom end weight to the lower frequencies and provides a fuller sound and wider soundstage.”
I have to bring a completely undiscussed topic to the table. It's about the 5 years warranty.
Where do i have to register it to get it? I wondered so about if it's transferrable or not that i don't find how to activate it now that i got mine new.
Where do i have to register it to get it? I wondered so about if it's transferrable or not that i don't find how to activate it now that i got mine new.
dontfeedphils
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dontfeedphils
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Speaking of cables, I have enough of this wire on the way to make a new 10' braided cable (4 strand braid, 16 wire in total). Here's to hoping I like what I hear once it's finished.
Wow why don't they mention the extended warranty in the "why register your product".
This should make a great cable. I hate removing the litz insulation and always worry some is still there leading to possible loopback on some conductors. What technique do you use?
I really like the original stock cable. I have had to repair it a couple times at the lemo’s due to it’s weight.
dontfeedphils
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Just a couple of dips in the solder pot at >700f and it's typically good. I just watch for the melted enamel to stop showing up at the top of the solder pot as I'm moving the wire around and it seems to work pretty well.
I bought a small amount of the wire and some test parts last month to make sure everything would play well together. Should be a nice chunky cable.
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i'm glad you raised this matter as it seems to have flown under the radar here
Do you mean the Silver Dragon? The Black Dragon is all copper. Per Moon’s site:
the Black Dragon V2 cable uses 4 x 21.5AWG Teflon insulated stranded conductors using pure single crystallized UP-OCC pure copper with 7N purity 99.99998%.
Other than the fact that it is really 6-Nines, the cable is all copper. Tks.
iamoneagain
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For me, I’m find the Danacable a bigger upgrade than moving up from the Focal Arche to Chord mscaler/Dave. The amp and dac don’t have same effect on the overall tone. The cable gives its this rich tone that stock doesn’t have. It also makes it more transparent. But could happily still live with the stock one but will know I’m missing out on that nice rich sound.
So spending over $1000 on a cable may sound crazy, but it’s a cheaper upgrade than buying expensive dac.
I believe Danacable has 30 day return policy. When I bought mine they stopped it due to covid but may have added it back since can’t really spread like that.
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