Focal Clear headphones
Jan 12, 2018 at 1:08 PM Post #1,771 of 12,837
Clear isn't between those two headphones, it's vastly superior. IMO of course Clear>>>Hd800s>LCD-2

You are right. The clear is superior than both HD800s and lcd2. When said in between, I was thinking HD800s too bright and clinical, the lcd2 too dark, and the clear great balance across the board

I think that way a said it sounded like
HD800 > Clear > lcd2

I’ll put the Clear first
 
Jan 12, 2018 at 1:13 PM Post #1,772 of 12,837
Oddly I have been sitting here this evening and was listening to my Utopia's ... but they were too 'front row' ... so changed to the Clear's ... they were much more relaxed but so detailed ! After about half an hour I was finding them not quite what I wanted so have moved onto Oppo PM-2's ... perfect ! Just the right warmth but detail and quality. It just shows that listening is so subjective even to each individual at different times and in different moods.

Without doubt the Clear and Utopia are better than the PM-2's ... but not tonight ....
 
Jan 12, 2018 at 1:19 PM Post #1,773 of 12,837
Oddly I have been sitting here this evening and was listening to my Utopia's ... but they were too 'front row' ... so changed to the Clear's ... they were much more relaxed but so detailed ! After about half an hour I was finding them not quite what I wanted so have moved onto Oppo PM-2's ... perfect ! Just the right warmth but detail and quality. It just shows that listening is so subjective even to each individual at different times and in different moods.

Without doubt the Clear and Utopia are better than the PM-2's ... but not tonight ....
Oh so true. Many variables. I find my rig sounding diff at diff times of the day.
 
Jan 12, 2018 at 1:19 PM Post #1,774 of 12,837
You are right. The clear is superior than both HD800s and lcd2. When said in between, I was thinking HD800s too bright and clinical, the lcd2 too dark, and the clear great balance across the board

I think that way a said it sounded like
HD800 > Clear > lcd2

I’ll put the Clear first
Excellent, I thought that's what you meant but I just wanted to make a point. It seems like a lot of posters lately have been bringing up HD800s as if it's competitive with or at the same level as Clear and it just isn't.
 
Jan 12, 2018 at 1:23 PM Post #1,775 of 12,837
Oh so true. Many variables. I find my rig sounding diff at diff times of the day.
Absolutely. There are some nights when nothing would sound good and others where everything does. I wish I knew how to make the "everything sounds good" mood happen.
 
Jan 12, 2018 at 3:00 PM Post #1,778 of 12,837
I have always thought of Beyerdynamic as being a step down from the top tier of brands. It would be really surprising if they were able to challenge any of the current top phones.
 
Jan 12, 2018 at 3:28 PM Post #1,780 of 12,837
This are my " FOCAL LOL" HEADPHONES


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Jan 12, 2018 at 4:36 PM Post #1,782 of 12,837
Jan 12, 2018 at 4:40 PM Post #1,783 of 12,837
Jan 12, 2018 at 4:47 PM Post #1,784 of 12,837
The Clear l is a open back Headphone...i was not saying it's a closed back lol



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