Focal Clear headphones
Oct 1, 2017 at 1:33 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 12,652

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Be they say (really? same size?)

edit: F Clear apppears in that 72min-video at exact 0:1:28 for around 22 scs. (takes 40mins to find out)

No Be of course, still Al-Mg.
 
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Oct 1, 2017 at 2:42 AM Post #2 of 12,652
That is not what was printed on the headphone in Jude his video?

It is probably a Focal Elear tuned more neutral like the Utopia.
 
Oct 1, 2017 at 7:42 AM Post #4 of 12,652
Focal is smart, like a fox with a graduation hat.
My guess is that they listened to the general consensus (Elear upped mid suckout, Utopia a bit on the bright side), and made a 2-2.5k headphone with "spot on" tonality and a bit less technicalities compared to the Utopia.
Edit: the new cable looks great, I'm glad they listen to people and try to improve their products, not everyone does that.
 
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Oct 1, 2017 at 9:37 AM Post #5 of 12,652
Dont get them ideas:wink: No dynamic is worth 2.5k besides Utopia and thats only, because it use Berylium. I see a lot more inovation in HD800series than in any dynamic headphones and impeccable qc and modular desing so price why i pay for it is explained. 1.5k would be fair price for questionable driver quality control.
 
Oct 1, 2017 at 11:34 AM Post #7 of 12,652
Focal is smart, like a fox with a graduation hat.
My guess is that they listened to the general consensus (Elear upped mid suckout, Utopia a bit on the bright side), and made a 2-2.5k headphone with "spot on" tonality and a bit less technicalities compared to the Utopia.
Edit: the new cable looks great, I'm glad they listen to people and try to improve their products, not everyone does that.
So, a 2K headphone that sounds better than their 4K? Who would buy the 4K? Who at Focal would be crazy enough to let that happen?

I say a 'different sounding' Elear at $1200-$1500.
 
Oct 1, 2017 at 11:40 AM Post #8 of 12,652
So, a 2K headphone that sounds better than their 4K? Who would buy the 4K? Who at Focal would be crazy enough to let that happen?

I say a 'different sounding' Elear at $1200-$1500.
He didn't say anything about it being better then the 4K model?

Different tonality to the Elear and Utopia and "a bit less technicalities" compared to the Utopia.
 
Oct 1, 2017 at 11:58 AM Post #12 of 12,652
Oct 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM Post #13 of 12,652
So "spot-on tonality" would not be better?

In theory yes, but not everyone hears the same...how many people likes Pioneer Master 1/Sony MDR-Z1R/stock HD800? :)

I agree with you in tone, in fact, if this has a better tone than Utopia and Elear, I would consider it better, but not everyone has the same preferences as me and you, we are a part of a target market, not the complete target market.
 
Oct 2, 2017 at 2:50 AM Post #15 of 12,652
So "spot-on tonality" would not be better?
'spot-on' tonality is subjective. Each headphone has its own tonality - whether its better or worse depends on listener taste.
 

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