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Be they say (really? same size?)

edit: F Clear apppears in that 72min-video at exact 0:1:28 for around 22 scs. (takes 40mins to find out)

No Be of course, still Al-Mg.
 
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That is not what was printed on the headphone in Jude his video?

It is probably a Focal Elear tuned more neutral like the Utopia.
 
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Agree. I think it's Utopia with Elear driver. Aka Utopia whitout berilium
 
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Focal is smart, like a fox with a graduation hat.
My guess is that they listened to the general consensus (Elear upped mid suckout, Utopia a bit on the bright side), and made a 2-2.5k headphone with "spot on" tonality and a bit less technicalities compared to the Utopia.
Edit: the new cable looks great, I'm glad they listen to people and try to improve their products, not everyone does that.
 
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Dont get them ideas:wink: No dynamic is worth 2.5k besides Utopia and thats only, because it use Berylium. I see a lot more inovation in HD800series than in any dynamic headphones and impeccable qc and modular desing so price why i pay for it is explained. 1.5k would be fair price for questionable driver quality control.
 
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I'm super excited to hear this at RMAF... I"m hoping it's exactly like @ToroFiestaSol described it! I also hope that I can even get a chance to hear it at the Focal booth. I know it's going to be crazy over there due to this release.
 
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Focal is smart, like a fox with a graduation hat.
My guess is that they listened to the general consensus (Elear upped mid suckout, Utopia a bit on the bright side), and made a 2-2.5k headphone with "spot on" tonality and a bit less technicalities compared to the Utopia.
Edit: the new cable looks great, I'm glad they listen to people and try to improve their products, not everyone does that.
So, a 2K headphone that sounds better than their 4K? Who would buy the 4K? Who at Focal would be crazy enough to let that happen?

I say a 'different sounding' Elear at $1200-$1500.
 
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So, a 2K headphone that sounds better than their 4K? Who would buy the 4K? Who at Focal would be crazy enough to let that happen?

I say a 'different sounding' Elear at $1200-$1500.
He didn't say anything about it being better then the 4K model?

Different tonality to the Elear and Utopia and "a bit less technicalities" compared to the Utopia.
 
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He didn't say anything about it being better then the 4K model?

Different tonality to the Elear and Utopia and "a bit less technicalities" compared to the Utopia.
Exactly!
Me english is far from good so it's difficult for me to write properly, thank you for explaining it correctly!
 
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Exactly!
Me english is far from good so it's difficult for me to write properly, thank you for explaining it correctly!
Your English is fine friend. Impressive even if it's not your native language... unless your just putting us on? Ha
 
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Your English is fine friend. Impressive even if it's not your native language... unless your just putting us on? Ha
My native language is spanish, and my mother is a spanish philology professor...the bar is set too high lol
 
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So "spot-on tonality" would not be better?
In theory yes, but not everyone hears the same...how many people likes Pioneer Master 1/Sony MDR-Z1R/stock HD800? :)

I agree with you in tone, in fact, if this has a better tone than Utopia and Elear, I would consider it better, but not everyone has the same preferences as me and you, we are a part of a target market, not the complete target market.
 
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So "spot-on tonality" would not be better?
'spot-on' tonality is subjective. Each headphone has its own tonality - whether its better or worse depends on listener taste.
 
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