[dontfeedphils]

All 3 drivers are different. Utopia Be/Formerless voicecoil
Elear Aluminum/magnesium. Standard copper voicecoil
Clear Aluminum/Magnesium NEW copper voicecoil Technology

Aren't all three formerless voice-coils? Just different materials, the Utopia and Elear using aluminum and Clear using copper?

 

[TSAVJason]

Aren't all three formerless voice-coils? Just different materials, the Utopia and Elear using aluminum and Clear using copper?

Nope! Only the Utopia is formerless

 

[dontfeedphils]

Nope! Only the Utopia is formerless

Must be mis-remembering the head-fi video they did with the dude from Focal.

 

[Alcophone]

Must be mis-remembering the head-fi video they did with the dude from Focal.

Same here. I heard the Clear's coil is formerless, too, making it lighter and more controlled.

 

[dontfeedphils]

 

[Beagle]

Went from formerless aluminum to formerless copper, whatever that means.

 

[dontfeedphils]

Went from formerless aluminum to formerless copper, whatever that means.

Pretty sure that's the main difference between Elear/Clear. The voicecoil material, pads, and possibly the openness of the back of the cup/enclosure.

 

[Wildcatsare1]

Personally, I’d like to hear more about how they sound, but maybe that’s just me...

 

[dontfeedphils]

Personally, I’d like to hear more about how they sound, but maybe that’s just me...

Pretty sure everyone does.

 

[Paulo Abreu]

You want the first 90% of burn in to be what is known as piston memory. So yes just go easy and you’ll notice the open nature of the change which of course varies by headphone or speaker. When you hear them start to change that is the preferred time to start bringing the levels up,

Good to know, will follow the advice. Thanks for sharing

 

[PeteSTRADAMUS]

Personally, I’d like to hear more about how they sound, but maybe that’s just me...

Go and try to audition them somewhere, if Focal is your cup of tea, then you won't be disappointed.

 

[Wildcatsare1]

Go and try to audition them somewhere, if Focal is your cup of tea, then you won't be disappointed.

Sadly, I’m out in the Hinterlands, there isn’t a Dealer in Lexington, or any where near.

 

[PeteSTRADAMUS]

Sadly, I’m out in the Hinterlands, there isn’t a Dealer in Lexington, or any where near.

That really sucks. It's hard to give an exact detailed explanation of the sound, because, only your ears will know if they sound good to you.

 

[Wildcatsare1]

That really sucks. It's hard to give an exact detailed explanation of the sound, because, only your ears will know if they sound good to you.

What

That really sucks. It's hard to give an exact detailed explanation of the sound, because, only your ears will know if they sound good to you.

You don’t have any of the Cans I’m most familiar with, HD800, LCD 3F, MrSpeakers Ether Flow, or Audeze iSine 20’s. If any on the Thrad have experience with those headphones please let me know how they compare. The other question I have is should I go for a Clear now, or continue saving for a Utopia (probably used)?

 

[PeteSTRADAMUS]

What


You don’t have any of the Cans I’m most familiar with, HD800, LCD 3F, MrSpeakers Ether Flow, or Audeze iSine 20’s. If any on the Thrad have experience with those headphones please let me know how they compare. The other question I have is should I go for a Clear now, or continue saving for a Utopia (probably used)?

Yes, I'm not that familiar with the sound on any of those you mentioned. I'm also in the same boat on upgrading to the Utopia, I have a personal problem with wanting the best available. Don't get me wrong, I love the sound of the Clear, but I don't want to miss out on anything with the Utopia.