Focal Bathys - Wireless ANC Over-Ear Headphone
Sep 8, 2023 at 7:21 AM Post #1,321 of 1,722
If you don't need ANCs and you're ok with passive noise canceling, I would seriously take a look at the Audeze Maxwells. They're incredible and I've been using them as my daily drivers over the Bathys.
I had them for a while too, the Maxwell are a bargain.

Buut Bathys they are not. The two trade blows technically and have a different sound signature, I think I prefer the timbre of the Bathys, it sounds a bit more natural to me. Initially I thought the Maxwell may be superior but after some time I'm pretty sure the Bathys edges them for my tastes, although Maxwell are potentially a bit more detailed I think, not by much.

Maxwell are gigantic though. I wouldnt wear them in public ever, absurdly big cups and heavy. So they don't replace Bathys for me in the slightest.
 
Sep 8, 2023 at 7:30 AM Post #1,323 of 1,722
I’ve only just come across the Maxwell as I’m looking for a new gaming headset, so wouldn’t have thought to compare them to the Bathys, which I’ll be using for music in the office. I guess I’ve just never used a gaming headset for music listening (I’m an Astro A50 user on PS5).
 
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Sep 8, 2023 at 8:24 AM Post #1,324 of 1,722
I’ve only just come across the Maxwell as I’m looking for a new gaming headset, so wouldn’t have thought to compare them to the Bathys, while I’ll be using for music in the office. I guess I’ve just never used a gaming headset for music listening (I’m an Astro A50 user on PS5).
They're "gaming headset" in terms of nomenclature due to the boom mic, which is unnecessary since it sounds perfectly fine without it. The Maxwells blow any "gaming headset" out of the water in terms of music and overall sound quality in that segment.
Yeah, the weight is absurd. Normal for big planars maybe that you can listen to in your comfy armchair sippin gin&tonic, but even than 500g+ it's a bit much for me personally.
The weight doesn't bother me when I wear them around the house. It's very comfortable as well.
I had them for a while too, the Maxwell are a bargain.

Buut Bathys they are not. The two trade blows technically and have a different sound signature, I think I prefer the timbre of the Bathys, it sounds a bit more natural to me. Initially I thought the Maxwell may be superior but after some time I'm pretty sure the Bathys edges them for my tastes, although Maxwell are potentially a bit more detailed I think, not by much.

Maxwell are gigantic though. I wouldnt wear them in public ever, absurdly big cups and heavy. So they don't replace Bathys for me in the slightest.
Yeah I wear the Bathys as my ANCs when I go out.

I would say the Maxwells are bit more neutral and has a wider soundstage.
 
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Sep 11, 2023 at 3:25 PM Post #1,326 of 1,722
Just got a pair for 480 pounds - trusted ebay seller and 4 months old from Richer Sounds with receipt - goodbye trusted HD700s :)
Wow, well, the HD 700 would seem to fit a very different use case than ANC closed-backs, though. 😅
 
Sep 11, 2023 at 5:19 PM Post #1,327 of 1,722
AudioQuest Carbon USB-C Cable Review

Hi there all of you guys who - like me - won’t stop thinking that there could be more to squeeze out of the Bathys. I reached out to AudioQuest and they did send me an example of their 0.75 meter Carbon USB-C to USB-C cable in exchange for an honest review (using the cable with my Bathys and my MacBook Pro as well as my Samsung Galaxy s10e).

For starters I’d like to tell you which EQ I am using:

+1.5db/62Hz
+2db/250Hz
+5.5db/1kHz
+6db/4kHz
+5.5db/16kHz

I do use another one when using the Bathys wireless though … https://www.head-fi.org/threads/foc...arly-impressions.965153/page-63#post-17495082

I always heard differences between USB-C to lightning cables (I hat two different ones back then for my iPhone), and they did sound shockingly different! That’s why I thought maybe I could hear a difference between different USB-C to USB-C cables, too. In addition there are differences to be heard when switching from a mobile phone to the MacBook Pro. There shouldn’t be a difference. It´s all 1s and 0s, right? Well, I don’t believe that any more ...

Anyways, let’s start with my findings when listening to the AudioQuest Carbon in comparison to the original Focal USB-C cable:

Overall I would say that I hear some kind of consolidation. The music seems to be a bit more present, tangible. It doesn’t have a different presentation (like the Wireworld I will speak of later on). BUT as the background appears to be blacker when listening to the Carbon, the music might be more palpable. It certainly isn’t a night-and-day-difference though.

Beginning with the bass I’m inclined to say the Carbon has a tiny bit more oomph than the original cable. I, for one, like its bass presentation very much and wouldn’t want to change anything.

The highs are, compared to the Focal cable, a bit softer. I have to admit: That’s something that surprised me a bit. Not that the Caron sounds worse in this department, it´s just a bit more cautious. This also means: One could drive the Bathys a bit louder than previously, which in consequence favours the bass/mids … which isn’t a bad thing per se if one prefers headphones that don’t have too much energy in the upper frequency range. On the other hand: If one prefers a more „airy“ sound, you might want to stick to the original cable.

But what about the mids? Well, here lies the true charm of the Carbon, at least for me. Because this cable favours voices above all! Which again, might not be what you are searching for when listening to a lot of classical music and instrumental albums where you might want a bigger stage and air. BUT if you are one that favours voices, then you might want to check out this cable. It presents them very beautifully!

Since I did review the Wireworld Starlight 8 a few months back - you can find my findings here:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/foc...er-ear-headphone.965131/page-84#post-17653679
- Of course I’d also like to compare those two upgrade cables:

Alright, the Wireworld has a bigger stage. It sounds grander. But it comes with a cost. Where the information of the left and right signals pan very „left“ and very „right“, there also seems to be some kind of lack in between. At least when compared to the Carbon.

The Carbon has more information in the center stage, and it „renders“ (if one could use that word in a USB cable review) the information very true to the source. The WireWorld cable sounds a tiny bit, just really a tiny bit more woolly, just because the stage is that big in comparison to the stage of the Carbon. And to be honest, I am not sure which sound I really prefer. Of course orchestral music benefits from having „space“. But when listening to a jazz singer I might want to hear the voices as clear as possible. I guess it comes down to your taste. Both cables are similarly priced. Pick your poison :wink:

The downsides?

1. One word: Price. (About 200 Euros). Of course this is a lot.
2. It doesn’t sound THAT much different when comparing it to the original Focal cable. It "just" makes it a bit more "better" sounding. (The WireWorld cable did indeed sound different)
3. The length is either 0.75 meters or 1.5 meters. I chose the first, shorter length because I want to put my smartphone into my left front pocket. It is the perfect length for this carrying version. 1.5 meters would have been to long, even if I would put my mobile phone into my back pocket. Also please don’t forget number 1 (price!)
4. Compared to the Starlight 8 cable from Wireworld it doesn’t „flash“ any importance. It is, well, black. It is slightly thicker than the original cable, which is a very good thing in my opinion. Also it bends very nicely, is pliable (although not as pliable as the original cable) and also doesn’t have so much microphonics than the WireWorld. But if you are looking for an upgrade cable that also has a bling bling factor, this isn’t it. But I think that most of you guys don’t want/need that anyways because the Bathys itself has enough „importance“ in its looks itself.

BTW: This is the link to the official AudioQuest/Carbon website:
https://www.audioquest.com/cables/digital-cables/usb-c-to-usb-c/carbon

To be true: The Batys sound fantastic with the bluetooth connection. Of course there is a jump to be heard when connecting it with a USB-C cable to the mobile phone (it sounds better to me when connected to an android phone compared to the iPhone with the Camera Kit). And there is another small jump when connecting the Bathys to the Laptop/MacBook Pro. And there is another (this time even smaller) jump when connecting the Bathys with an upgrade USB-C cable to the chosen source, at least to me, where the diminishing return kicks in. BUT the biggest jump (in overall sound quality and transparency and balanced tuning) you will get when applying my suggested EQ (for USB connection) at the beginning of this review. Have fun listening to the Bathys! :)

And here, at last, some pics:


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Sep 14, 2023 at 8:24 AM Post #1,332 of 1,722
Was thinking you needed Pro for USB 3? But probably not. I have the iPad Pro so assumed so. Also want / need the better camera setup :)
You need the Pro for USB 3.0 speeds, yes, but that's unnecessary for audio.
 
Sep 16, 2023 at 11:07 AM Post #1,334 of 1,722
An odd one here - and bear with me as only got my headphones yesterday - all works fine with my Astell SR25 using AptX and the headphone jack but the minute plug in the USB C cable it works but I cant alter the volume - either via the headphones buttons or the SR25 - Is it a bug or am I missing something obvious ?
 
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Sep 16, 2023 at 8:01 PM Post #1,335 of 1,722
I will be ordering these today as they look perfect !
They were originally designed for the Apple Airpods Max but they fit the Bathys perfectly as well (I have the same one).
 

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