flinkenick's 17 Flagship IEM Shootout Thread (and general high-end portable audio discussion)
Jun 30, 2017 at 9:14 PM Post #2,267 of 39,414
One driver the one driver in the shoot out which has a single BA driver. Hope that clears it up. No single BA driver can produce enough bass. One DD can. This can ->

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Jun 30, 2017 at 10:00 PM Post #2,270 of 39,414
One driver the one driver in the shoot out which has a single BA driver. Hope that clears it up. No single BA driver can produce enough bass. One DD can. This can ->

That can looks like it's going to deafen someone's hearing :D

so somebody has invented the technology to fit 50mm driver inside a iem housing? or i'm just in the wrong shootout thead? :D
But somebody has fit 64 drivers into one monitor (see 'Bertha'). I think that tech is not far off :)
 
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Jun 30, 2017 at 10:43 PM Post #2,271 of 39,414
so somebody has invented the technology to fit 50mm driver inside a iem housing? or i'm just in the wrong shootout thead? :D
Your wrong. My goal is the best sound on any uem or HP.
 
Jul 1, 2017 at 2:41 AM Post #2,276 of 39,414
-Unique Melody Maestro V2
-Warbler Prelude


these 2 seem to be the winners/overachievers in nic's shootout (so far)

as for losers/underperformers , one can make their own assumptions regarding which ciems here kinda underperformed , and at a price which should have been at least top-10 (but failed to do so)
 
Jul 1, 2017 at 2:52 AM Post #2,277 of 39,414
The remaining six all have something to prove, and provides a tasty backdrop to the rest of the shootout.
Zeus - Can it live up to the hype?
A18 - Can it live up to the asking price?!
Warbler - How far can the underdog go?
SE5U - Does the legend still have what it takes?
Maestro v2 - A respected reviewer named it his #1, can it claim one more title?
W900 - Can the hybrid be the best solution for ultimate fidelity and put an end to DD vs BA bickering?

Tasty tasty weeks to come.
 
Jul 1, 2017 at 3:54 AM Post #2,278 of 39,414
-Unique Melody Maestro V2
-Warbler Prelude


these 2 seem to be the winners/overachievers in nic's shootout (so far)

as for losers/underperformers , one can make their own assumptions regarding which ciems here kinda underperformed , and at a price which should have been at least top-10 (but failed to do so)
Glas half empty type of person? :wink: All I see is TOTL IEMs battling it out on details and none of them underperformed. It is so close that differences in tuning choices by the manufacturer can cause a difference of several places in the ranking, not because they are "worse", just because their strengths are more specialised. At least, that's how I see it. That makes the Warbler really special because they can apparently do everything really well, despite the foundation of only a single BA driver.
 
Jul 1, 2017 at 3:57 AM Post #2,279 of 39,414
wallet half full i would say (cause i am not buying into buying hyped/overpriced ciems)

I am talking price-wise old sport when i say about winners/losers

if a 1200$ ciem trumps a 1850$ ciem , then there is clearly a winner/loser (or overachiever/underachiever) pattern in my mind at least

cheers
 
Jul 1, 2017 at 4:20 AM Post #2,280 of 39,414
wallet half full i would say (cause i am not buying into buying hyped/overpriced ciems)

I am talking price-wise old sport when i say about winners/losers

if a 1200$ ciem trumps a 1850$ ciem , then there is clearly a winner/loser (or overachiever/underachiever) pattern in my mind at least

cheers
When considering price things become more complicated because you would have to take into account more than just the sound. This shootout was never meant to be a "bang for the buck" type of shootout, but rather one purely about sound. That is why I ignore the price and look more at things like the Warbler's single BA driver, Dita's single DD driver, 64 at 18 BA drivers and AAW with their hybrid design. I like seeing how innovative different manufacturers have been to reach a certain sound signature and push its performance. And one signature might be more challenging than another. A more specialised signature will focus its strengths in one area with a trade-off in another, possibly causing a lower overall score.

Like I have said before, this shootout has not chanced my opinion of the Custom Art H8.2, it in fact further verified that its signature is something I would like, and it has added to that the UE18+ Pro, which apparently does what I like a little bit better. It is interesting to see that Ultimate Ears does it with fewer drivers, but the again, they are a very different company.
 

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