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Good one, that was funny lol
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Also, a cable CANNOT influence the speed and rhythm, which are totally dependent on the source and the IEM. For example if you are listening to fast paced music, you would need a DAP and an IEM that is able to handle the pace and rhythm.
just out of curiosity why wasn't any Sony or any bigger brand offering included in this? Too low end?
Question for all while we pass the time waiting for Nic's reviews to pour in:
Conventional wisdom for order of priority goes iems, dap, amp THEN cables once you've got everything else sounding how you want it. The proverbial cherry on top. Nic's cable philosophy indicates that with the great (read: expensive) cables, you're actually listening to the cable just as much as the IEM. With low impedance IEMs that don't need the power, should one spring for the premium cable and ignore getting an amp? And is the leap from stock cable to premium cable greater than the leap from a decent source (say, an iPhone) to a great source (like RWAK380)?
Tldr: what should be the next upgrade, assuming one has TOTL IEMs, a decent DAP, no amp, and stock cables- cables, DAP, or amp?
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Also, a cable CANNOT influence the speed and rhythm, which are totally dependent on the source and the IEM. For example if you are listening to fast paced music, you would need a DAP and an IEM that is able to handle the pace and rhythm.
Hey, what do you mean when you say influence with regards to speed? In my experience a cable can have quite a profound effect on the perception of speed particularly with attack and decay. I.e. the onset and dissapearence of a note.
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For our soundtrack, we turn to Donna Summer’s disco classic “I Feel Love”. Donna takes a central position on the stage, not too distant, and not too forward. Through her position, you can feel the space around her. There’s a certain sweetness in her voice, but also warmth, and depth. It’s a solid image, starring in its central role. She’s surrounded by a number of fast-paced disco melodies, the style that Giorgio Moroder single-handedly made popular in the 70’s. The tones swerve and move, rotating through the soundstage from left to right, enhancing that holographic feel that the precise imaging is providing. Everyone of them has its own spotlight, in full view of your attention. Throughout the song, Donna is accompanied by one or two background singers, mirroring her performance. They’re strategically placed at the extremities of the stage, making the stage feel even wider. The track feels fast but always, incredibly smooth. The bass needs to be present - it’s a disco track so it should make you want to dance, or nod your head at the very least. The [xxx]'s bass is inviting: its presence is known, hitting relatively deep, while remaining clean and controlled. This isn’t a mean, hard-hitting bass that wants to impose its will on you. You can dance if you like, but hey – if you want to sit and drink a beer, that’s cool too.
Speed is at least partially affected by the frequency response. Specifically, greater treble extension or prominence of the higher treble frequencies can make a sound faster. Greater midrange resolution will improve the definition of fast midrange notes. On the other hand, enhancing the mid- and upper-bass can slow the bass down and accordingly the general presentation, especially when the treble extension cannot compensate. So yes, a cable can affect speed.
Hey, what do you mean when you say influence with regards to speed? In my experience a cable can have quite a profound effect on the perception of speed particularly with attack and decay. I.e. the onset and dissapearence of a note.
Well, it will be easy to make a decision, if you can understand what aspect of the sound, each component in the chain can and cannot influence. Cables can affect most of the aspects like tone, signature, transparency, sound-stage and separation. But there are certain aspects that high-end cables can seem to improve like; depth, layering and imaging but source is what is improving those aspects, and the cable is simply able to render it.
Also, a cable CANNOT influence the speed and rhythm, which are totally dependent on the source and the IEM. For example if you are listening to fast paced music, you would need a DAP and an IEM that is able to handle the pace and rhythm. Also, if you want some coloration and some good bass impact, an amp could help. But introducing an amp in the chain will reduce the transparency.
So it depends. Also, you can be having the best DAP and the best IEM, but without a decent cable, you are not experiencing the best the DAP and IEM could offer.
I think if all cables costed half of their current MRSP, there would be a revolution in the community. Pairing a 1K cable with a flagship iem would prob be the standard if it costed $500, as the price to performance would be close to even, at least to my ears. But cheaper as well as the more expensive cables would also be more attractive. Everybody is haunted by the same drive to maximize performance, but the current market price is too inflated to allow for a real change.
In general, I would of course recommend going with a dap and iem first. In fact, I would recommend going with several iems first before it becomes worthwhile to invest in really expensive cables. One of the reasons being that synergy isn't guaranteed when you have one iem, but probable if you have multiple. However, if you have specific requirements (a current pairing is too warm, or the treble is too harsh) a cable can be an excellent solution. There have been cases where I'm not initially a fan of a certain iem, but a cable pairing drastically changes my opinion.
Speed is at least partially affected by the frequency response. Specifically, greater treble extension or prominence of the higher treble frequencies can make a sound faster. Greater midrange resolution will improve the definition of fast midrange notes. On the other hand, enhancing the mid- and upper-bass can slow the bass down and accordingly the general presentation, especially when the treble extension cannot compensate. So yes, a cable can affect speed.
#2 China. This is happening alot this year in Hobg Kong.My humble opinion on what affects SQ, in order of importance :
1) Quality of the recording and mastering
2) The fact that you have a cold or not / congested sinuses (happens quite often)
3) Quality of iem / earphones
4) Eartip selection
5) Quality of source and synergy with iem / earphone, including impedance matching
6) Mood
9999) Cable
My humble opinion on what affects SQ, in order of importance :
1) Quality of the recording and mastering
2) The fact that you have a cold or not / congested sinuses (happens quite often)
3) Quality of iem / earphones
4) Eartip selection
5) Quality of source and synergy with iem / earphone, including impedance matching
6) Mood
9999) Cable