flinkenick's 17 Flagship IEM Shootout Thread (and general high-end portable audio discussion)
Oct 29, 2020 at 11:59 PM Post #24,631 of 39,419
Yeah it needs EQ if not using cipher cable to sound right. Without EQ or cipher cable, it’s one of the worst in terms of tonality. When done right, the planar driver does sound extremely good. That planar bass is to die for, not even Z1R can come close.
Its in a class of its own with the cipher cable.
 
Oct 30, 2020 at 12:13 AM Post #24,632 of 39,419
Its in a class of its own with the cipher cable.

Yes and I would encourage anyone who has the opportunity to try the setup I mentioned earlier (R8 + i4 + cipher + Anker adapter). It’s just in a different league. Funnily enough, when I tried them with Cayin N6ii through it’s USB-C port, I didn’t get the same magic as with R8. N6ii sounds more congested, whereas with R8, I’m hearing the most holographic and 3D soundstage I’ve ever experienced with IEMs (unparalleled height, width and depth). Not to mention its top notch resolution, separation and layering. I did find I only need volume levels between 5-10 with this setup though, much lower than with both balance or SE phone out.
 
Oct 30, 2020 at 12:25 AM Post #24,633 of 39,419
It’s very different than a traditional iem though, as it’s completely open.

lcdi4 is actually one of the few iems I’ve always wanted to try but never have. I wouldn’t buy it because of its open nature and technical idiosyncrasies, but I’ve heard lots of good things about how it sounds and wouldn’t mind hearing it.
 
Oct 30, 2020 at 12:29 AM Post #24,634 of 39,419
It’s very different than a traditional iem though, as it’s completely open.

lcdi4 is actually one of the few iems I’ve always wanted to try but never have. I wouldn’t buy it because of its open nature and technical idiosyncrasies, but I’ve heard lots of good things about how it sounds and wouldn’t mind hearing it.

Yep, it’s just like listening to open back headphones, or airpods pro in transparency mode :smile:
 
Oct 30, 2020 at 1:04 AM Post #24,636 of 39,419
Yep, it’s just like listening to open back headphones, or airpods pro in transparency mode :smile:


Transparency mode sucks lol
In airpod when togle that on man its weird
 
Oct 30, 2020 at 1:20 AM Post #24,637 of 39,419
Yes and I would encourage anyone who has the opportunity to try the setup I mentioned earlier (R8 + i4 + cipher + Anker adapter). It’s just in a different league. Funnily enough, when I tried them with Cayin N6ii through it’s USB-C port, I didn’t get the same magic as with R8. N6ii sounds more congested, whereas with R8, I’m hearing the most holographic and 3D soundstage I’ve ever experienced with IEMs (unparalleled height, width and depth). Not to mention its top notch resolution, separation and layering. I did find I only need volume levels between 5-10 with this setup though, much lower than with both balance or SE phone out.
How is that even possible? If you're using the Cipher cable then the DAP is just a transport at that point because the cable has its own DAC and amplification. There should be no difference.
 
Oct 30, 2020 at 1:46 AM Post #24,638 of 39,419
How is that even possible? If you're using the Cipher cable then the DAP is just a transport at that point because the cable has its own DAC and amplification. There should be no difference.

I’m also surprised and I did a comparison with N6ii as the source and it does sound different. But I’m also hearing noticeable differences between iPad Pro and iPhone (with the same logic it should also sound the same, correct?). That’s why I said if anyone has the opportunity to try that setup, please do so.
 
Oct 30, 2020 at 1:48 AM Post #24,639 of 39,419
Transparency mode sucks lol
In airpod when togle that on man its weird

Actually the transparency mode is very good, everything sounds natural to me, especially after the FW was upgraded to 3A283.
 
Oct 30, 2020 at 8:57 AM Post #24,640 of 39,419
At times we are so upper tier focused, I thought it might be nice to show the DUNU SA6 at $550. I know others have shown them here but I received these yesterday.

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BRAND: DUNU
MODEL: Studio SA6
NET WEIGHT: 11 g

FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 5 Hz - 40 kHz
SENSITIVITY: 113 ± 1 dB at 1 kHz
IMPEDANCE: 60 Ω at 1 kHz
TOTAL HARMONIC DISTORTION: < 0.5% at 1 kHz

BALANCED ARMATURE DRIVER CONFIGURATION:
  • BASS [2]: Sonion AcuPass Vented Dual Woofer
  • MIDRANGE [2]: Knowles Custom Midrange Driver (×2)
  • TREBLE [2]: Knowles Custom Dual Tweeter
TUNING MODES:
  • Default Signature (Switch Position ‘I’)
  • Atmospheric Immersion (Switch Position ‘ON’)
HOUSING MATERIAL:
  • SHELL: German Nice-Fit Hand-Poured UV Acrylic Resin
  • FACEPLATE: High-Grade Stabilized Wood
CABLE LENGTH: 1.2 ± 0.1 m
CABLE CONNECTOR: 2-Pin (0.78 mm)

WIRE MATERIAL:
8 Core, High-Purity, Monocrystalline, Silver-Plated Copper

PLUG CONNECTOR:
Patented DUNU Quick-Switch Modular Plug System

INCLUDED PLUG TERMINATION(S):
  • 4.4 mm TRRRS Balanced,
  • 3.5 mm TRS Single-Ended
  • 2.5 mm TRRS Balanced
 
Oct 30, 2020 at 9:39 AM Post #24,641 of 39,419
Yeah I love my SA6 they punch above their price point!
The built is superb, only downsides you don't get to pick the unique colors of your model...

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Oct 30, 2020 at 10:06 AM Post #24,642 of 39,419
I'm intrigued by something... I'm looking for some iems where electric guitars sound with a good bite... Right now I doubt Lz A7, Dunu Studio and clairvoyance. Could anyone guide me? I really like my Dunu Dk-3001pro, but I need something biter on electric guitars for when I hear hard rock... Perdonen si no es el lugar adecuado para preguntar...
 
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Oct 30, 2020 at 10:52 AM Post #24,643 of 39,419
I'm intrigued by something... I'm looking for some iems where electric guitars sound with a good bite... Right now I doubt Lz A7, Dunu Studio and clairvoyance. Could anyone guide me? I really like my Dunu Dk-3001pro, but I need something biter on electric guitars for when I hear hard rock... Perdonen si no es el lugar adecuado para preguntar...
What's your price range?
 
Oct 30, 2020 at 10:56 AM Post #24,644 of 39,419
Oct 30, 2020 at 11:00 AM Post #24,645 of 39,419
I’m also surprised and I did a comparison with N6ii as the source and it does sound different. But I’m also hearing noticeable differences between iPad Pro and iPhone (with the same logic it should also sound the same, correct?). That’s why I said if anyone has the opportunity to try that setup, please do so.
That is a good point. Why would it sound different if the cipher cable is being used? Doesn’t the cipher cable use its own dac and even amp?
 

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