Final Audio Design Heaven IV
Dec 28, 2016 at 10:29 AM Post #258 of 268
I find the Heaven III to be a fantastic earphone, one of the best, overall, for under $100. By far, the best rendering of vocals I have heard. Massdrop and FAD hit a grand slam with the Heaven III!
 
Dec 28, 2016 at 11:16 AM Post #259 of 268
+1 Yes, only thing I don't like is how small the bore opening on the silicone tips are. They don't match the IEM's bore size. After a while of listening and adjusting I tried other wider bore tips and they sound even more open and spacious. These are never sibilant either and have just the right balance of bass in respect to the mid's and highs to never fatigue.

The Havi B3 don't compare, nor the VDS3s. Even the famous Zero Audio Tenore everyone raved about was a giant IEM killer is a joke. The Heaven III are a true "Punch above their weight" for the price Massdrop did. These are my dear favorites now. I was able to listen 5 hours straight and enjoyed them. They are like an upgraded version of a RE-600 and Ostry KCO6 but better in all ways where the other two lack in some areas.

This was the best $69.00 I ever spent on an IEM that shocks me for how it performs overall. If these surpass my Trinity PM6 I will be upset as they cost more and are a 6 BA driver. It will be a love hate feeling. :D
 
Dec 29, 2016 at 6:50 AM Post #260 of 268
Good points. I completely agree with you about the Carbo Tenore. The Carbo Tenore can't hold a candle to the Heaven III.

It will be interesting to see/hear how the Heaven III stacks up to the PM6. Trinity Bob has his work cut out for him.
 
Dec 29, 2016 at 11:53 AM Post #261 of 268
Good points. I completely agree with you about the Carbo Tenore. The Carbo Tenore can't hold a candle to the Heaven III.

It will be interesting to see/hear how the Heaven III stacks up to the PM6. Trinity Bob has his work cut out for him.


Yes Bob has his work cut out. When I get them PM6 I will post an brief impression how they compare to the Heaven III.
 
Jan 8, 2017 at 12:39 AM Post #262 of 268
Review​

The only thing I don't like is how small the bore opening on the silicone tips are. They don't match the IEM's bore size. After a while of listening and adjusting I tried other wider bore tips and they sound even more open and spacious. These are never sibilant either and have just the right balance of bass in respect to the mid's and highs to never fatigue.

The Havi B3 don't compare, nor the VDS3s. Even the famous Zero Audio Tenore everyone raved about was a giant IEM killer is a joke. The Heaven III are a true "Punch above their weight" for the price Massdrop did. These are my dear favorites now. I was able to listen 5 hours straight and enjoyed them and felt energized after. They are like an upgraded version of a RE-600 and Ostry KC06 but better in all ways where the other two lack in some areas.

If you read about the RE-600 you will get an idea what I'm reiterating what others have already described. I'm not a reviewer but I can best explain that the RE-600 is VERY VERY VERY Neutral. Everything is evenly balanced. I can say it's U shaped. Some say the highs are recessed but I like them as they are not sibilant or harsh unless it's a bad or old recording. The Heaven III are more sensitive it seems at the same volume levels and the mid's are more forward as are the highs.

The Heaven III has everything more than the RE-600, that's why I call the Heaven III a RE-600 on steroids. The flat cable is actually nice and no real noise (more so) than other cable styles. The flat cable is why they used it to eliminate any possible noise. Some have said the noise is there but when worn over the ears it's vastly better. I don't move around when listening to music anyways so I didn't feel it was anything that was horrible or noticeably a deal breaker.

One thing I can say is that the Heaven III is great except on higher volume levels. At higher volume levels they become shouty and harsh. Others have said that too and I agree but you have to crank it pretty good volume wise to see it. They are easy to drive so I don't see a need to go high volume but I wanted to see if what others said was true and it was.

The Heaven III are never sibilant and they have a fast sounding response to everything I throw at them. Every time I listen to them they just keep reminding me of the RE-600 but again they give more of what the RE-600 don't, bass, Mid's and highs. The RE-600's have one advantage that you can crank them and they always sound the same never shouty or harsh. I don't feel either are bad at normal listening levels but the RE-600's are just so very non-fatiguing they pull me into the music more, if neutral is your flavor. If you still like neutral but a little more than neutral then the Heaven III are it.

This was the best $69.00 I ever spent on an IEM that shocks me for how it performs overall.

Hope that helps0
 
Jan 8, 2017 at 12:40 AM Post #263 of 268
 
Review​

The only thing I don't like is how small the bore opening on the silicone tips are. They don't match the IEM's bore size. After a while of listening and adjusting I tried other wider bore tips and they sound even more open and spacious. These are never sibilant either and have just the right balance of bass in respect to the mid's and highs to never fatigue.

The Havi B3 don't compare, nor the VDS3s. Even the famous Zero Audio Tenore everyone raved about was a giant IEM killer is a joke. The Heaven III are a true "Punch above their weight" for the price Massdrop did. These are my dear favorites now. I was able to listen 5 hours straight and enjoyed them and felt energized after. They are like an upgraded version of a RE-600 and Ostry KCO6 but better in all ways where the other two lack in some areas.

If you read about the RE-600 you will get an idea what I'm reiterating what others have already described. I'm not a reviewer but I can best explain that the RE-600 is VERY VERY VERY Neutral. Everything is evenly balanced. I can say it's U shaped. Some say the highs are recessed but I like them as they are not sibilant or harsh unless it's a bad or old recording. The Heaven III are more sensitive it seems at the same volume levels and the mid's are more forward as are the highs.

The Heaven III has everything more than the RE-600, that's why I call the Heaven III a RE-600 on steroids. The flat cable is actually nice and no real noise (more so) than other cable styles. The flat cable is why they used it to eliminate any possible noise. Some have said the noise is there but when worn over the ears it's vastly better. I don't move around when listening to music anyways so I didn't feel it was anything that was horrible or noticeably a deal breaker.

One thing I can say is that the Heaven III is great except on higher volume levels. At higher volume levels they become shouty and harsh. Others have said that too and I agree but you have to crank it pretty good volume wise to see it. They are easy to drive so I don't see a need to go high volume but I wanted to see if what others said was true and it was.

The Heaven III are never sibilant and they have a fast sounding response to everything I throw at them. Every time I listen to them they just keep reminding me of the RE-600 but again they give more of what the RE-600 don't, bass, Mid's and highs. The RE-600's have one advantage that you can crank them and they always sound the same never shouty or harsh. I don't feel either are bad at normal listening levels but the RE-600's are just so very non-fatiguing they pull me into the music more, if neutral is your flavor. If you still like neutral but a little more than neutral then the Heaven III are it.

This was the best $69.00 I ever spent on an IEM that shocks me for how it performs overall.

Hope that helps.

Check out the Spinfit tips with any of the Heavens (if you haven't already).
 
Jan 8, 2017 at 12:51 AM Post #264 of 268
@kfarndog

The Spinfits have a smaller bore and close the sound-field. I have them and they are over hyped.

I have all the sizes and I did try deep insertion and they crumble and break the seal as they are thin. They have a really really specific location they have to be in to work for me, not too shallow or too deep and once I hit that sweet spot then other issue is there; closing in the sound stage due to having a smaller bore, that's still a deal breaker. They also reduce the bass.

If they had a larger bore and were a tad thicker I would likely like them but they don't improve the sound for me. I prefer a wider bore and let my natural ear curve send the sound through the ear canal with a wide sound field rather than a narrow bore facing the ear canal reducing the sound field which I'm sure was never the design of the IEM in the first place.
 
Jan 8, 2017 at 8:21 PM Post #265 of 268
@kfarndog

The Spinfits have a smaller bore and close the sound-field. I have them and they are over hyped.

I have all the sizes and I did try deep insertion and they crumble and break the seal as they are thin. They have a really really specific location they have to be in to work for me, not too shallow or too deep and once I hit that sweet spot then other issue is there; closing in the sound stage due to having a smaller bore, that's still a deal breaker. They also reduce the bass.

If they had a larger bore and were a tad thicker I would likely like them but they don't improve the sound for me. I prefer a wider bore and let my natural ear curve send the sound through the ear canal with a wide sound field rather than a narrow bore facing the ear canal reducing the sound field which I'm sure was never the design of the IEM in the first place.

Yeah, they certainly aren't for everyone.  Spinfits and Complys are some the few tips that I can get a good seal with (I have tried many others). After all, some people love the standard Final tips.  So glad there are lots of options for all of us.  :)
 
Jan 8, 2017 at 8:34 PM Post #266 of 268
Yeah, they certainly aren't for everyone.  Spinfits and Complys are some the few tips that I can get a good seal with (I have tried many others). After all, some people love the standard Final tips.  So glad there are lots of options for all of us.  :)


Right, what I don't get is why anyone would sacrifice their sound field with a narrow bore that the Spinfits have? I guess people don't hear a difference, but I do. Instead I use the Trinity Atlas tips that have a larger bore than the Final Audio ones and they fit the same and are of the same height and width, they just have a larger bore opening, way more than the Spinfits and seal the same and don't lose the bass and are less picky on seal and position. So yes it's good we have different options. :D
 

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