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Sep 25, 2017 at 1:19 AM Post #11,581 of 15,897
Different uses I guess - I shuffle a lot, and often when the DAP is in my pocket# it’s simply easier to skip a track or adjust volumes from the controls.
 
Sep 25, 2017 at 6:15 AM Post #11,582 of 15,897
Foobar2000 is handling my Various Artists to my liking. @FiiO you might want to take a look at how they are doing the sorts. I have compilation checked in the tag.
Ok, we will report to the engineers about that.

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Sep 25, 2017 at 6:21 AM Post #11,583 of 15,897

It's ok on normal mode but touch the shuffle icon and the problem starts. Oh by the way other music app software in Android mode is fine but not pure mode. A shame.

Sorry about that. We will report to our engineer about that and have a look of the issue.

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Sep 25, 2017 at 6:28 AM Post #11,584 of 15,897
No, but this is the second X5III that I have owned. It worked on my old Toshiba that was all USB 2.0 but on my XPS that is USB 3.0 and USB C it does not work.
We did get the feedbacks from some users that the USB3.0 works fine. We are now purchasing some related devices and trying to reproduce the issue. Currently, we can't confirm it should be the problem with X5III or other reasons.

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Sep 25, 2017 at 8:15 AM Post #11,585 of 15,897
Zealous fanboys, that is why I stay clear of Apple products.

I think the only reason certain things get repeated is because some problems never get resolved. My issue that is the most basic of functions simply connecting the dap to a computer has not been resolved. I had a lot of communication early on trying to resolve this, both with users and FiiO but now it is all but forgotten and FiiO have not yet admitted that it is the dap at fault.

When I first encountered this problem and after everyone kept blaming my laptop I was ready to do battle with Dell. I know a lot of people like to criticise Dell but I have found both their products and support to be exemplary.

There were many complaints aired about Dell's tablets yet I never had any trouble with mine and even this XPS received a lot of criticism despite many reviewers calling it the Mac Slayer. It is working flawlessly after a years hard use and I am certain it will last longer than my Service Plan that expires in 2 years time.

Hopefully you won't have the same problems as me, however, I must warn you that after the Creators Update my USB C fix using a USB C to USB 3.0 adapter stopped working.

We did get the feedbacks from some users that the USB3.0 works fine. We are now purchasing some related devices and trying to reproduce the issue. Currently, we can't confirm it should be the problem with X5III or other reasons.

Best regards

Hi @New Fiio Owner,

regarding your issues with USB connections and if you still have the "patience" to try to solve it, even though I have already placed a few workarounds here in the forum, I can suggest some other workarounds;

Like I have said in that post USB connections can be really tricky, I know I had some headaches with them regarding other equipment (curiously none with the Fiio X5III)

If you want to send me a PM with every work around you have done, which Dell XPS you have and operating system; and I will check if there is any other thing I can recall so you can solve your issue :)

[EDIT: I will try to write a comprehensive guide for those with the issue if my assumptions regarding the above issue are correct]
 
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Sep 25, 2017 at 12:29 PM Post #11,586 of 15,897
just got a red x5iii and before that was using dx80 with it03. after listening and comparing, I find the x5iii is brighter and wider, while the dx80 is bit more restraint and depth. also, the x5iii seems to be more powerful as it drive my it03 at 30-40, while dx80 would be 45-55 (both at low gain) to achieve the same loudness. I like the x5iii brighter and wider sound better.
 
Sep 25, 2017 at 1:58 PM Post #11,587 of 15,897
Foobar2000 is handling my Various Artists to my liking. @FiiO you might want to take a look at how they are doing the sorts. I have compilation checked in the tag.

Foobar has a lot of things designed right in their app in terms of handling tagging and large collections. (and replaygain) I think this is due to their heritage and not starting from a mobile device. They along with Neutron Foobar actually uses the "albumartist" tag.

In terms of source material both Itunes and Amazon along with popular ripping tools such as DBpoweramp all use the artist and album artist tags closely to how they were intended to be used. itunes sets the compilation tag to zero on noncompilaiton albums which is problematic in some applications.

Does anyone know if the Foobar app on the X5iii can avoid SRC?
 
Sep 25, 2017 at 2:09 PM Post #11,588 of 15,897
I am just trying to be helpful here @justDAP, so please take it that way. One cannot hope to compare how powerful two devices are by comparing the setting on their volume controls for a given SPL. There are simply too many variables.
The first one is how much drive the device is getting. In this case the input to the pre-amp from the DAC section.
Two, the taper on an analog pot or the selected step magnitude for a digital volume control will normally have differences. Sometimes large differences.
The only way to do such a comparison is by measuring the power output required to reach a given audio level. At least this will almost certainly show that there may be a difference of some amount of numbers registering for the volume control on each device, the power output is the same. Of course if we are using the same transducers in each case.

To know if one device is more powerful than another we would have to measure the maximum power output at some standard impedance when it crosses a certain threshold for THD, or some other parameter that is important to us.

A quick search shows that the X5III is rated at 250 mw into 32 ohms. The DX80 260mw into 32 ohms (though I did not see distortion levels for the DX80, the Fiio is pretty high at 1% for rated output.)

So the real available power difference is negligible.

It is a similar situation where we read someone saying that a device has lots of headroom because it only needs 3/4 volume to get loud enough. In this case, we have no idea whether the next click on that volume control is going to push the device into clipping.

Basically the setting on the volume control cannot be relied upon to tell us much of anything, other than an acceptable volume level with a specific song, on a specific device, with one specific set of IEMS or headphones.
 
Sep 25, 2017 at 2:44 PM Post #11,589 of 15,897
I am Happy with the Fiio X5 III so far been playing around a bit with it, wonderful Player.
I realy enjoyed the player so battery was Running out for me so there was only 5% battery Left
I was able to finished what i was doing before turning it off.

Then conected X5 III to Pc to charge it , Blue light turn on and White battery indicator blinks
It start charging, So I Try to Turn on Fioo X5 III while is plugged in for charging
Since i wanted to download something on player and didnt want to wait until it was charged.
But while trying to operate it during charging , X5 III boot up into android but then after some seconds
Turn off with "Turning off" message, i had only time to see battery was 0%.

Now after 30 minuts charging i was able to charge battery for 30 minuts and could get
it turned On while plugged in for charging, and now say battery is 31% charging , and 5 Hours left
to charge 100%, So i turned Off Wifi so it didnt use up battery and checked and see
the battery indicated moved from 31 to 32%, There is only % battery indicator while Fioo X5 III is turned on (i use android mode) but not when having it plugged in and turned off
then only a white battery blinking and a standby blue light on side.

If battery is 0% i am not able to turn on X5 III until battery has charged a bit like 30 minuts or so.

My question is , Can Fioo X5 III be operated while charging when battery is very low
like 0% battery, or only option is to wait like 30 minuts until it has charged some?

Is There a way to see Battery % indicator when X5 III is turned off since i only then see white battery flashing, and have to wait until it charged 30 minuts or so then i can turn on player and see battery indicator in android.
 
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Sep 25, 2017 at 9:08 PM Post #11,590 of 15,897
I didnt see it until now, but seem to be a Problem on the Fioo X5 III screen i purchased 4 days ago.
it look like a Black Dot it does not goes away and that is not good, i tried clean it but seem is not on the outside screen
is on the inside of the screen

Could this be a Dead pixel, would you have returned the player only for this
I purchased the player for 470 euro then i expect the screen to be good
that is sad because i realy like the player

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Sep 25, 2017 at 9:32 PM Post #11,591 of 15,897
I would think that this will depend on how much it bothers you and how much you want to deal with the return process, and being without the brand new player for a significant amount of time.
Can you deal with the vendor that you bought it from for a quick replacement?

I have never dealt with this on a DAP. I do know that expensive TVs come with a dead pixel warranty. What they will do for the buyer depends on the total number of dead pixels and their proximity on the screen.
Nothing to do with the DAP, but is what many display providers do. Have you contacted anyone to ask the question?

Asking on a forum is fine, but no one can give you the answer that you want. How important is it to YOU, and what are your options?
 
Sep 25, 2017 at 9:36 PM Post #11,592 of 15,897
Thank you, It is maybe best to contact the vendor, when i hold the player in various angel
it look like is inside like on the inside of the glass, is best seen on white background
so it not bother me on music apps that has dark background, but on white background is clearly seen.

I see 2 dots on the screen, one futher down and that one look like more on the inside screen
look like the shadow of the other dot that is more like in between the glases or inside the glas
could be a loose pixel
 
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Sep 26, 2017 at 12:56 AM Post #11,594 of 15,897
For Tidal Premium you can stipulate in the settings where it gets stored. I no longer have Tidal - but thats what I did.
 

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