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Feb 24, 2020 at 8:48 AM Post #46 of 96
Sorry, if this has answered before, I didn't find reliable information. My Galaxy S10 (I think my older S8 had the same feature), the Exynos version (!), supports simultaneously streaming to two different Bluetooth devices. So this isn't dependent on the presence of a Qualcomm SoC.
If, during the pairing process, the two earphones each identify as a separate Bluetooth devices, shouldn't it be theoretically possible to use that to mimic the Qualcomm TWS+ stuff. One problem I see, though, is the processing of stereo audio. If the smartphone doesn't "know" for some reason that it should transmit only one instead of two channels per earphone, even if the earphones are "smart" enough to take the left channel for one earphone, the right channel for the other. This would make the whole thing moot, since one benefit of TWS+ is, that you basically have more bandwidth available.
I wish this was simply a software thing, and that Samsung would get rid of selling the same phone with completely different SoCs, presumably.

Almost doubling the effective data rate that you could achieve with such a "two mono channel" configuration, this would probably make it possible to use a genuinely lossless codec for standard 16 Bit / 4X Hertz. It would feel so good to finally have a "wireless situation" that's completely beyond any question in the back of your mind, if the current lossy codec you're using with you favorite devices could not be even slightly better. And I say that as someone who ABX'd himself into knowing that 160 kbps CBR MP3 sound transparent. A lossless codec wouldn't be a feature for my ears, it would be for my brain.

I'm just talking out loud, would be interested in some thoughts.

Thank you!
 
Feb 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Post #47 of 96
Well, first of all we would need to have a codec for that. There's no lossless codec available for BT transmission. Theoretically Kleer offered lossless 16/44.1 but no smartphone on the market supports that, that I know of.
 
Feb 24, 2020 at 1:31 PM Post #48 of 96
Yes, we'd need a A2DP FLAC implementation or something.

But my question was actually more about this "dual bluetooth connection" idea. Would be sweet to have a standard for that as well!
 
Feb 27, 2020 at 10:40 AM Post #50 of 96
I have seen a few earphones that identify themselves as supporting “TWS+”, which I understand to mean a system where each earphone is independently linked to the phone, rather than daisy-chained. But I haven’t seen any phones that tout this feature, nor a list anywhere of all phones supporting TWS+.

Am I correct in my understanding that TWS+ only works on phones/DAPs that have Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets? And does the chipset in the UTWS1 automatically fall back to operating in a daisy-chain configuration if TWS+ is unsupported on the other end of the connection?
 
Feb 28, 2020 at 10:36 PM Post #51 of 96
I have seen a few earphones that identify themselves as supporting “TWS+”, which I understand to mean a system where each earphone is independently linked to the phone, rather than daisy-chained. But I haven’t seen any phones that tout this feature, nor a list anywhere of all phones supporting TWS+.

Am I correct in my understanding that TWS+ only works on phones/DAPs that have Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets? And does the chipset in the UTWS1 automatically fall back to operating in a daisy-chain configuration if TWS+ is unsupported on the other end of the connection?
Dear user,

Yes, your mobile phone need to support TWS+ as well. If TWS+ is not supported in your mobilephone, the connection will be TWS instead.

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