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FiiO M11-Android 7.0, 2.5/3.5/4.4 Powerful Output, Exynos 7872, Dual AK4493 DAC chips, 3GB RAM, WiFi, Two-way LDAC

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by FiiO, Mar 19, 2019.
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  1. Vitandus
    I figured it out, after doing stuff as crazy as going to an EMI isolation room (RF/WiFi testing), and it's /facepalm I didn't see the common factor. I run everything balanced. On a whim, I used a 2.5mm to a 3.mm. The hiss dropped very very low - to the point I had to max volume to hear it. Back to balanced, and bam! I can hear it again. To be clear, it's not "hiss" in the purely pedantic definition, but "noise". Slight pop when DSDs start.

    With Poweramp beta, I got the pop when it was scanning and I kicked off playback. Less prevalent once done scanning - only with DSDs, not with AACs from iTMS.

    Edit: Do you with the unit hear the slight pop/crackle when music starts? It sounds exactly like my Android phone with UAPP/Poweramp. It's not evident on my Sony Walkman.
     
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  2. misteral201103
    No pop or crackle ever, balanced or single. I'm using the Fiio music app.
     
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  4. Vitandus
    What IEMs?
     
  5. aaf evo
    Amazon M11 order placed, estimated delivery date is June 4th. I got $100 off by signing up for the amazon credit card (which I have been meaning to do for as long as i can remember now), overall it cost me $355 after overnight shipping. Super excited to receive it and give it a go. :)
     
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  6. gLer
    Feel free to Dropbox me these two files and I’ll test them on my M11 and desktop rig as well.
     
  7. gLer
    The FH7 nozzle is only 1mm or so longer than the FH5, with the same shell shape, so you’re not going to get much of a deeper throw with it. Also early reports suggest the FH7 is tuned with LESS bass than the FH5, so if it’s bass quantity you’re after, you’re likely not going to get that with the FH7.

    Sorry I don’t buy that. One of the standout features of the M11 for me was its pitch black noise floor, tested with three IEMs and two headphones. There must be something g else going in with your setup, or you may have a defect with your unit. I’d have it checked out.
     
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  9. JamesFiiO Contributor
    In fact, we have change the shape of FH7 so it is not exactly the same as FH5.
     
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  10. Vitandus
    @gLer - that's what I was hoping. Mind if I drop you a test file? I'm leaning toward issue now - again, can hear the sound system start up with the white noise or pop, and can hear it during quiet passages or if I pause the player. After a few seconds, the sound stops as audio system quiesces, then pop again as the player restarts. I reset the device, and now despite picking English, folder music location is in Chinese. Just that part of the interface.

    @misteral201103 I'd think those be sensitive and pick up what I hear on your set. Darn it!
     
  11. gLer
    There will always be better. I think the M11 sets a new benchmark for what’s possible at this price point and is going to make other manufacturers seriously question their value proposition. Many new daps will now be compared to the M11 in what they offer. It will take ALOT better to get me to upgrade the M11, given that with the M11 I’m no longer looking at what A&K and Cayin and iBasso are doing because none of those are the least bit compelling at the prices they’re asking.
     
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  12. gLer
    Looking forward - that video should be fun to watch with popcorn! :p
     
  13. gLer
    Please PM me your file/s via Dropbox and I’ll test them with pleasure. If by ‘noise’ you mean the pop at the start of a DSD track and between DSD and PCM files, I’m afraid that’s a common issue with some dacs and not limited to the M11. Audio-gd dacs are plagued by this as well, as is ifi (the well-reviewed ifi Micro iDSD BL blanks out the first second of some tracks to mitigate this issue, which sounds terrible with gapless albums). This is very different to noise floor or hiss with no audio playing or during soft sections of playing tracks. Send me the files and we can go from there...
     
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  14. dsrk
    Absolutely agree, I think M11 is going to rewrite how X5 3 changed the game altogether when it was released. I don't think any other DAP had that level of an impact.
     
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  15. gLer
    I think the difference is there was a notable gap between the X5iii and the high end daps even back when it was released. Now the gap between the M11 and even the $2000+ daps is much smaller, to the point that (for me anyway) there’s no value in upgrading, especially since I use a dap as my secondary listening device after my desktop.
     
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