FiiO E17 "ALPEN" - First Impression + Final Thought
Jan 17, 2012 at 9:33 PM Post #332 of 6,777


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ClieOS,
 
Have you try using the 3.5mm jack to connect E17 and E9? If so, did you notice any difference? As I remember sb said that there is an improvement connecting in this way for E7/E9, just wanna know whether it is the case for E17. Should E17 then be called pre-amp connecting in this way since the amp function has turned on? It seems that we can turn on the amp function even if E17 was connected using the docking, right? I am curious about the difference?
 
Thanks!


No, I didn't try E17's headphone-out to E9. It will be double amping that way and whatever you get will be a more colored sound (though it could be more favorable regardless). E17 already has a pre-amp out, via the LO Bypass switch, so you can get the EQ working with E9 when docked. I have tried it and haven't really notice a lot of difference in SQ between LO and pre-amp out.
 


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What specifically and technically would allow the E17 to sound "better" than the E10? Same DAC and USB receiver.


The circuits are totally different. In E10, the TE7022 feeds directly to WM8740. In E17, the TE7022 feeds into WM8805 (a SPDIF transceiver), then WM8805 feeds WM8740. They might have used two of the same chip, but it doesn't mean the implementation is the same.

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I know this, what specifics of the amp make it better? I guess I am questioning the professional review more than anything.
 

The amp section on E10 only employs the AD8397 to do both voltage and current gain to drive headphone. In E17, it uses two opamps (AD8692+AD8397). One acts as pre-amp while the other acts as the power amp, much like a setup you will find on the speaker world. It is that separation of jobs that makes it a better amp, so to speak, than the 'handle-all' AD8397 in E10. Of course, you also have to consider that FiiO is able to put in better implementation on the E17 as opposed to the budget and space limited E10.
 
 
 
Jan 17, 2012 at 9:36 PM Post #333 of 6,777


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I ordered an e17 from the first pre-order and received a FedEx tracking number yesterday with an estimated delivery of today. That seemed impossible since I am on the east coast of the U.S (Delaware) but to my surprise it arrived at my office this morning.  I unpacked it and could not get it to work.  When I got home I tried it with one of my laptops and had the same problem.  There is no volume at all.  



You need to be more specific than 'could not get it to work'. Does it turn on? If so, what mode it is in? You need to press the 'input' so it will be in USB-in mode for PC use.
 
Jan 17, 2012 at 9:53 PM Post #334 of 6,777


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You need to be more specific than 'could not get it to work'. Does it turn on? If so, what mode it is in? You need to press the 'input' so it will be in USB-in mode for PC use.



It does turn on and I have it set to USB.  It looks exactly the same and the one you reviewed except the SPDIF-in is not pink on mine.  
 
Jan 17, 2012 at 10:01 PM Post #335 of 6,777


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I ordered an e17 from the first pre-order and received a FedEx tracking number yesterday with an estimated delivery of today. That seemed impossible since I am on the east coast of the U.S (Delaware) but to my surprise it arrived at my office this morning.  I unpacked it and could not get it to work.  When I got home I tried it with one of my laptops and had the same problem.  There is no volume at all.  



1, First, make sure that E17 have enough power. 
 
2, Try the AUX IN first, to make sure the amp section and the volume control, input function is OK. 
 
3, Connect to PC to make sure the USB decoder is OK , take care you need to change to USB IN first.
 
4, Test the SPDIF function at the end.
 
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Jan 17, 2012 at 10:06 PM Post #336 of 6,777


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It does turn on and I have it set to USB.  It looks exactly the same and the one you reviewed except the SPDIF-in is not pink on mine.  



t I just PM you and want to contact you directly by phone or MSN, skype.
 
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Jan 17, 2012 at 10:13 PM Post #337 of 6,777


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t I just PM you and want to contact you directly by phone or MSN, skype.



Get um feiao... better show some of the amazing customer service I hope to expect from you guys. :)
 
Jan 17, 2012 at 10:17 PM Post #338 of 6,777


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It does turn on and I have it set to USB.  It looks exactly the same and the one you reviewed except the SPDIF-in is not pink on mine.  


You might also want to do a reset (hole are in between headphone-out and SPDIF-in) and, I am sure you are right but it is worth checking, that you are not inserting the headphone to SDPIF-in.
 
 
Jan 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM Post #340 of 6,777


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You might also want to do a reset (hole are in between headphone-out and SPDIF-in) and, I am sure you are right but it is worth checking, that you are not inserting the headphone to SDPIF-in.
 


 
I did the reset using a pin and I am not using the SPDIF.  Tomorrow morning I will do the tests James mentioned and hopefully figure things out.  
 
Jan 17, 2012 at 10:36 PM Post #341 of 6,777


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i am basing this off pure reviews from headfonia. Mike prefers the audinist MX1 over the E17 which is noticeably better than the E10. ever one is different.
 



Mike likes the MX1 a lot. I on the other hand think it's a good dac/amp but nothing special really. You see Mike is a reviewer so of course he is going to greatly exaggerate things that are not all that noticeable at all not to mention how easy at times it is for him to be influenced by the price of a product.
 
Jan 17, 2012 at 10:44 PM Post #342 of 6,777
Below is what I get from gsh1976 , I post here because there are not any private information that need to protected. 
 
"One point before I go to bed -- when I click on the volume control in the taskbar it says SPDIF interface at the top and at the bottom it says FiiO USB DAC -E17."
 
Seems the question is because Gsh1976 select the wrong playback device. please set the FiiO USB DAC-E17 as default Audio Playback device. 
 
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Jan 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM Post #343 of 6,777
^ Seems a lot of people get this confused when they get their first DAC.
 
Opening playback devices (a simple right-click on the speaker icon) while music is playing will clearly show weather or not data is being sent to the correct device.
 
Jan 18, 2012 at 12:13 AM Post #345 of 6,777
So I'm sorry if this question was asked before, but hopefully it's easy to answer
 
Can I use the SPDIF input on the E17 while it's docked with the E9?
 

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