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FiiO BTR3-The World' First Bluetooth Headphone Amplifier, SBC/AAC/aptX/aptX LL/aptX HD/LDAC/HWA (LHDC)

Discussion in 'Portable Headphone Amps' started by FiiO, Aug 8, 2018.
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  1. Ggroch
    No way I know of. Hopefully when BTR3 control is added to the Fiio Music app it will show current firmware and provide an easier way to upgrade.
     
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  2. FiiO
    Dear friend,

    We will try to check whether this function can work via firmware update in the future.

    Best regards
     
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  3. Sp12er3
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    Please, we're waiting for an easier, much more stress free than the current steps too.
    Fiio music integration would be very nice.
     
  4. Sp12er3
    Tried using the Fiio Music app the first time, it surprised me when the led changed to green when playing music using the app, I checked and it seems to be LHDC, activated because I opted the HWA option on it seems.

    My question is:

    1) what's the difference between it and LDAC? Which is better? I saw some pages explaining things, it says LHDC has 900kbit throughput, how come is that activable only by using an app?

    2) how come I can no longer control the music playback using the BTR3 anymore? Only volume is controllable when LHDC is on.

    3) different one, but still from the app, how to change the source option from automatic to manual? I downloaded the PDF ver of BTR3 Quick start guide and it said I can change it via "the app" ... Where?

    4) using USB DAC function from phone->type c to a adapter->BTR3 is so quiet.. Way quieter than Bluetooth pathway. Why's that? Can I somehow mend this? It's barely driving my K702 Right now. Tried on both Spotify and Fiio music app, so quiet.
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2018
  5. PeterMac
    Would be great if you add battery level also if possible.

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    Nobody think about possiblility with replace battery in future ?
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2018
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  6. Willo13B
    sup peeps nice to see the BTR3 out and about. Question:

    My mobile rig rn is my iPhone SE as source, BTR1 + dt770i. Mostly Spotify on max quality. Sounds pretty legit.

    Would it be worthwhile to upgrade to the BTR3 for that AAC support? Not really needing more power.

    Could it also replace my E17K as my desktop dac-amp?
     
  7. hotdog108
    You'll get better range, better battery life, more stable connections at the very least. Those alone are reasons enough to upgrade. I come from the BTR1 as well, so this is first hand experience.
     
  8. Ultrainferno
    Nathan aka @shigzeo takes a close look at the BTR3 on today's article. He says it nails the basics: signal quality, noise floor, loaded and unloaded signal quality, and now APTx/LDAC support. He finds it to have great battery life and build quality but the Bluetooth signal catching quality... he's not a big fan of that.
    https://www.headfonia.com/review-fiio-btr3/
     
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  9. FiiO
    Dear friend,

    The volume of the BTR3 and your mobile phone is only controlable when LHDC is on?
    The manual and automatic switch will be added in later update for the BTR3 firmware and FiiO Music APP.

    Best regards
     
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  10. shigzeo Contributor
    The BTR3 is perfect for the SE846, current being the main issue or not. It also hisses next to not at all, less in fact than any high-end portable DAP unit I've tested in the last year.
     
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  11. psikey
    Having read concern raised by SubMash when using with low sensitivity IEM's I still decided to give it a go after having tried an ES100 at about £89 but not being happy with controls/materials or design (but did sound great with my SE846's & HD660S over LDAC).

    The BTR3 came today for ~ £49.50 (£55 on Amazon) and basically the build quality is everything the ES100 isn't, super easy to operate with phone or as a DAC to PC, and initial impression is it sounds as good as the ES100 via 3.5mm jack. Only tried with my SE846's but will try with my HD660S tonight. No background noise I can detect with the SE846's either. The V30+ wired using QUAD DAC does still sound a bit better but can't say there is a lot in it when listening to Spotify or Tidal MQA tracks. Looks like it will be great as an alternative to using my V30 wired or better than most other phones audio.

    Nice upgrade to my old HS3000 AptX BT adapter (which still actually works with around 4hrs of battery after around 5 or 6 years.

    Unless you need balanced, app tweaking and longer battery life I'd go for the ~£55 BTR3 over the ~£90 ES100, especially if design/materials/looks are important to you. Oh, or need to drive more demanding headphones.

    I tried the other lower BT modes including SBC, AAC, aptX but AptxHD and especially LDAC set to Optimised 990kbps sound noticeably better.
     
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  12. jeffri
    To be honest, the BTR3 does sound better than ES100 to me. I feel the ES100 sounds a bit too unnatural, timbre feels off, like the sound is over-processed to make it appear clean. BTR3 is better in this regard, with noise level as good as the ES100 while sounding more natural.
     
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  13. Sp12er3
    Yeah using HWA LHDC on, volume is only controllable from the BTR3, and the app did warn about that happening,

    I'm just wondering whether it'd be permanently that way or will Fiio add the volume control + track playback control function when LHDC is on, later in the future.
     
  14. psikey
    Adding to above, now just tried it with my 150 Ohm HD660S and it fed them nicely too, but have to have volume at nearly max if I want to listen loud. Normal listening for me with the HD660S would be 2-3 steps under max. I'd think it would struggle with anything much more demanding. Saying that, I have no need to listen to my headphones over Bluetooth from my phone and would always use them wired at home. The BTR3 is for use with my SE846 (used 90% of the time) if I need to be wire free from the phone or my old Klipsch X10i (exercise/bike commute earphones).
     
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  15. Sp12er3
    Read that, I think he has a case of faulty device, I have no experience of such bad connections like what he's describing in the article at all. Also at least 2 other commenter there also stated the same as me.

    I think he should ask for a different device or buy one off the self somewhere just to check whether the connection issues persist.
     
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