Exceptional in Every Detail: Say Hello to the IE 600

[elton7033]

Yeh, without a doubt, no sane manufacturer would shoot themselves in a foot. Not when ie900 is already a massive hit. I did have some issues with ie900 tuning and i think ie600 remedies that for my preferences. i would not expect it to be technically superior though.

The shell material is better?
The overall tuning is a more mainstream one, so the total performance is very similar.
it’s like the Honda S2000/FD2 faster than the nsx (old)… but the nsx remain flagship…

 

[ericpalonen]

How can a product with 7 negative points, some of them quite important, have 4 and a half stars in the review?

Why not?

 

[TheFrator]

Info to come very soon

Any word on North America availability? All these reviews have me exited to try them for myself

 

[firesign]

Why not?

4 and half stars is 9/10, almost perfection... It shouldn't have more than 1 or 2 negative points to be considered almost perfect, right?

 

[dougq]

4 and half stars is 9/10, almost perfection... It shouldn't have more than 1 or 2 negative points to be considered almost perfect, right?

says who?

 

[firesign]

says who?

Mathematics an logic.

 

[Ichos]

How can a product with 7 negative points, some of them quite important, have 4 and a half stars in the review?

Because the positive points are enough to award it the 4.5 stars.
Besides, actual listening is different than writing the negative points, that must be written.
Simple.

The rating system is different than you think and not as linearly mathematic as you imagine.

 

[Ichos]

It continues to amaze me how gratuitously the term "best" is used in this audio world.

There are probably no more personal opinions than those about audio products. What is better for one may be worse for another. These terms should be avoided in any review or comparison.

There are objective points as technicalities and subjective as tuning.
Simple.

 

[dougq]

Mathematics an logic.

That’s not how things work when ranking things. Your set of rules aren’t everyone else’s.

There are different weights for cons and pros per item.
What is even your argument.

 

[Ichos]

High end performance is not only about tuning.
The IE900 is better in any given technical point, from resonance control to soundstage, control, clarity, detail retrieval, resolution, articulation, pretty much everything.

But again many people will buy the IE600 for it's tuning which is most important thing as long as technicalities are not subpar.
And IE600 technicalities are not subpar, they just not in the same level with the IE900.

Simple as that

 

[dsrk]

High end performance is not only about tuning.
The IE900 is better in any given technical point, from resonance control to soundstage, control, clarity, detail retrieval, resolution, articulation, pretty much everything.

But again many people will buy the IE600 for it's tuning which is most important thing as long as technicalities are not subpar.
And IE600 technicalities are not subpar, they just not in the same level with the IE900.

Simple as that

Makes sense.

Some people who own the Susvaras or LCD5s or Utopias still own HD600/650/6XX. They just like it for what it is, the tuning, the excellent midrange etc.

 

[TheFrator]

Makes sense.

Some people who own the Susvaras or LCD5s or Utopias still own HD600/650/6XX. They just like it for what it is, the tuning, the excellent midrange etc.

That's why I still own my HD660s- the headphone that got me started in this hobby. I've never heard the 650, but an IEM that sounds like it is what peaks my interest.

 

[ericpalonen]

That's why I still own my HD660s- the headphone that got me started in this hobby. I've never heard the 650, but an IEM that sounds like it is what peaks my interest.

I feel the line between the two is dotted, but there are indeed many similarities. Of course, IEM and circumaural "experiences" are very different no matter what technology they are built upon.

 

[firesign]

Because the positive points are enough to award it the 4.5 stars.
Besides, actual listening is different than writing the negative points, that must be written.
Simple.

The rating system is different than you think and not as linearly mathematic as you imagine.

So how many stars would an IEM have that has same or more advantages than IE600 and far fewer problems?
8 stars? 9?

It is not that the rating has to be applied with fixed or simple rules, but at least it should be consistent, and at least for me it is not consistent that an IEM with as many negative points as positive has a 9/10, or almost perfect.

It's one of the things that keeps getting me down on audio reviews, and I know it happens to a lot of other people I've discussed it with.
And that's why I say it, simply.

 

[firesign]

There are objective points as technicalities and subjective as tuning.
Simple.

In this case I am referring to all those comments and/or reviews that assure without any question that the IE600 is the best DD IEM on the market.

I hope so, because it attracts me and I want to buy it, but even if it seems so to me, I would always say it subjectively (it is the one I like the most), but it is not appropriate to assure it in a taxitive and general way as an absolute truth .