Thank you, I did reach out to him previously and he has kindly replied. A little out of my budget at the moment due to the currency exchange
Empire Ears - Discussion & Impressions (Formerly EarWerkz)
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Joshyy73
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After 50 hrs of Burn in, @TomKorn wrote up a great piece comparing the Empire Ears EVO against the Odin and LX OG: https://audioessence.ch/en/blogs/ne...-empire-ears-legend-evo-mit-legend-x-und-odin
It is definitely worth the read and interesting to note his comments regarding Odin and EVO having more similarities than LX OG in terms of sound signature.
It is definitely worth the read and interesting to note his comments regarding Odin and EVO having more similarities than LX OG in terms of sound signature.
They are very nice, but to me, they sound somewhat similar to the Trio, and I prefer the latter in the end.
MkII signature is really spot on for balanced tuning. Or balanced to my ears lol.
Hoping EVOs signature will be more engaging + all the BC goodies.
This is lovely. But i just cannot imagine the "significantly more bass than LX OG" part lol
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How is Odin’s bass compared to something like the 64 Audio A12t?
I was lucky enough to audition EVO during CanJam. Here are some quick notes during a 10 minute session, using Final E Tips.
The issue I had with LX was the sheer amount of sub bass and generally 'all you can eat buffet' bass delivery. It would get fatiguing. With other tips this issue was mostly corrected however the 'magic' of the LX disappeared. With EVO, Empire Ears went with a more 'balanced' tuning, in that the bass isn't just delivered all via air conduction. There is still that classic LX 'house sound', but more restrained/thoughtful. The bone conduction isn't felt as much as it's heard.
What Empire Ears did was create a new dimension of bass that is heard, that seems to come from a different space. This creates a 'room reflection' vibe which I've never heard from anything else. This is what I think is responsible for the large soundstage of Evo and imho takes EVO presentation to perfect for my tastes. LX will sound wrong in comparison and the EVO is a huge step up, once you go to EVO, there's no going back. The Mason FS does share a similarity in creating 'air' via the bone conduction and EVO does a similar thing, but it delivers extra air in the bass delivery which then opens up the soundstage and creates bass room reflections. It's truly marvelous.
EVO reigns in more of the sub bass 'bloat' and exchanges it for the bone conduction. X is more 'guilty pleasure' bass where as Evo will deliver something totally different. Both still have 'Legend' tuning, but I prefer a more restrained delivery of Evo with that added BC magic, it is the crown jewel of Empire.
However, I did still encounter issues that I faced with Empire Ears Odin. The fit! With even the smallest final E tips, I couldn't achieve a good fit as the shell couldn't quite fit in my ear. The Evo shell is either the same size as Odin or likely slightly larger. This is a big boy, and larger than the LX as the LX doesn't have an issue fit wise. The bundled cable is fantastic, it's what I've been asking from manufacturers for YEARS. A TPU copper cable with genuine Pentaconn termination.
In summary, if EVO fit me as LX did, it would be an instant buy. Empire did an excellent tuning and disciplined the LX tuning. I think Jack Vang focused on how bass permeates and reflects within a room, it's a superb take on bone conduction. Congratulations on a SMASH HIT
The issue I had with LX was the sheer amount of sub bass and generally 'all you can eat buffet' bass delivery. It would get fatiguing. With other tips this issue was mostly corrected however the 'magic' of the LX disappeared. With EVO, Empire Ears went with a more 'balanced' tuning, in that the bass isn't just delivered all via air conduction. There is still that classic LX 'house sound', but more restrained/thoughtful. The bone conduction isn't felt as much as it's heard.
What Empire Ears did was create a new dimension of bass that is heard, that seems to come from a different space. This creates a 'room reflection' vibe which I've never heard from anything else. This is what I think is responsible for the large soundstage of Evo and imho takes EVO presentation to perfect for my tastes. LX will sound wrong in comparison and the EVO is a huge step up, once you go to EVO, there's no going back. The Mason FS does share a similarity in creating 'air' via the bone conduction and EVO does a similar thing, but it delivers extra air in the bass delivery which then opens up the soundstage and creates bass room reflections. It's truly marvelous.
EVO reigns in more of the sub bass 'bloat' and exchanges it for the bone conduction. X is more 'guilty pleasure' bass where as Evo will deliver something totally different. Both still have 'Legend' tuning, but I prefer a more restrained delivery of Evo with that added BC magic, it is the crown jewel of Empire.
However, I did still encounter issues that I faced with Empire Ears Odin. The fit! With even the smallest final E tips, I couldn't achieve a good fit as the shell couldn't quite fit in my ear. The Evo shell is either the same size as Odin or likely slightly larger. This is a big boy, and larger than the LX as the LX doesn't have an issue fit wise. The bundled cable is fantastic, it's what I've been asking from manufacturers for YEARS. A TPU copper cable with genuine Pentaconn termination.
In summary, if EVO fit me as LX did, it would be an instant buy. Empire did an excellent tuning and disciplined the LX tuning. I think Jack Vang focused on how bass permeates and reflects within a room, it's a superb take on bone conduction. Congratulations on a SMASH HIT
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Loved this write-up. Except now I'm far more nervous about the fit than the sound...I was lucky enough to audition EVO during CanJam. Here are some quick notes during a 10 minute session, using Final E Tips.
The issue I had with LX was the sheer amount of sub bass and generally 'all you can eat buffet' bass delivery. It would get fatiguing. With other tips this issue was mostly corrected however the 'magic' of the LX disappeared. With EVO, Empire Ears went with a more 'balanced' tuning, in that the bass isn't just delivered all via air conduction. There is still that classic LX 'house sound', but more restrained/thoughtful. The bone conduction isn't felt as much as it's heard.
What Empire Ears did was create a new dimension of bass that is heard, that seems to come from a different space. This creates a 'room reflection' vibe which I've never heard from anything else. This is what I think is responsible for the large soundstage of Evo and imho takes EVO presentation to perfect for my tastes. LX will sound wrong in comparison and the EVO is a huge step up, once you go to EVO, there's no going back. The Mason FS does share a similarity in creating 'air' via the bone conduction and EVO does a similar thing, but it delivers extra air in the bass delivery which then opens up the soundstage and creates bass room reflections. It's truly marvelous.
EVO reigns in more of the sub bass 'bloat' and exchanges it for the bone conduction. X is more 'guilty pleasure' bass where as Evo will deliver something totally different. Both still have 'Legend' tuning, but I prefer a more restrained delivery of Evo with that added BC magic, it is the crown jewel of Empire.
However, I did still encounter issues that I faced with Empire Ears Odin. The fit! With even the smallest final E tips, I couldn't achieve a good fit as the shell couldn't quite fit in my ear. The Evo shell is either the same size as Odin or likely slightly larger. This is a big boy, and larger than the LX as the LX doesn't have an issue fit wise. The bundled cable is fantastic, it's what I've been asking from manufacturers for YEARS. A TPU copper cable with genuine Pentaconn termination.
In summary, if EVO fit me as LX did, it would be an instant buy. Empire did an excellent tuning and disciplined the LX tuning. I think Jack Vang focused on how bass permeates and reflects within a room, it's a superb take on bone conduction. Congratulations on a SMASH HIT
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Yeeeeears ahead (compared to the U12t anyway)… like on a completely different playing field. The U12t has great BA bass don’t get me wrong, but it can’t compare IMO.
Enjoyed the bass of Legend X, but sometimes wish it was a little more controlled. Also enjoyed Odin’s bass, but sometimes wished for a little more quantity (quality was definitely not an issue). Sounds like EVO’s bass is the best of both, but Odin’s shell was a little large for my ears & EVO is even bigger. 
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Agreed. I'm really only curious how the new Evo compares to the Mest mk2. At double the price I hope the Evo will have increased bass impact, equal soundstage, and at least equal resolution without having shoutier mids and highs.
All these impressions are really annoying. Can we just get EVOs shipped next week please 
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Increased bass everything… quality, quantity, impact, control etc. I find it’s overall tonality more pleasing than mest 2 as well. Resolution for days, fear not.
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I somehow think it will have a lot better resolution.
Wildcatsare1
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I guess, like baby Dumbo, I've found the magic of having large ears, from the Thummim, too the very wide nozzles Bomber, I've not had any fit issues with IEMs. Afraid something tiny like the IE900 might fall in!Lived this write-up. Except now I'm far more nervous about the fit than the sound...
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