[ambrose1985]

excited to see how the legend would compare to tia fourte considering both are mixed drivers configuration!

would defo save some dough if legend is better ! *sniggers*

 

[olddude]

These are both going to be different sound signatures from the Zeus. No point trying to guess in what way, other than the teaser that the Phantom is a timbre monster. I seriously doubt either will supplant the Zeus, more likely complement it in different directions.

As to price, I thought I saw a post from Jack stating the the prices listed in the mini-review were a bit higher than EE had in mind. That will also be a wait and see.

 

[Deezel177]

These are both going to be different sound signatures from the Zeus. No point trying to guess in what way, other than the teaser that the Phantom is a timbre monster. I seriously doubt either will supplant the Zeus, more likely complement it in different directions.

As to price, I thought I saw a post from Jack stating the the prices listed in the mini-review were a bit higher than EE had in mind. That will also be a wait and see.

Folks who've heard the Phantom have touted it as one of the most correct-sounding IEMs they've ever heard, with some favouring it over the Zeus in terms of tonal accuracy and - as a result - transparency. The prices on the mini-review have been corrected. The Legend X will be 2300 USD, and the Phantom is 1800 USD.

 

[Wyville]

you have my attention (and the reply number 10,000 to this thread)

Thank @ryanjsoo for his impressions at PortaFest where the Phantom and Legend X were teased! They certainly have my attention and look to topple the UE18+ as my top choice for TOTL.

I am interested in Phantom too. Would it outperform Zeus???

As others have mentioned, they are different signatures and would more likely compliment each other/cater to different preferences. For me tonality is very important, I want instruments to sound realistically for classical music and the Phantom appear to do that very well. We will see once the official announcement comes around!

 

[ambrose1985]

Thank @ryanjsoo for his impressions at PortaFest where the Phantom and Legend X were teased! They certainly have my attention and look to topple the UE18+ as my top choice for TOTL.

As others have mentioned, they are different signatures and would more likely compliment each other/cater to different preferences. For me tonality is very important, I want instruments to sound realistically for classical music and the Phantom appear to do that very well. We will see once the official announcement comes around!

and when would that be !

 

[Deezel177]

and when would that be !

No one knows yet.

 

[Mython]

No one knows yet.

To quote one of my favourite old films (Monty Python's 'Life of Brian'):

"Why won't he tell us?" "Is it a secret..???"


I'm sure we'll find out, all in good time.

 

[Wyville]

To quote one of my favourite old films (Monty Python's 'Life of Brian'):

"Why won't he tell us?" "Is it a secret..???"


I'm sure we'll find out, all in good time.

And if he lets anything slip, he will be an ex parrot.

 

[phase0]

So far I've had nothing but problems with the fit on my Zeus. I'm still waiting on EE. They did say they'll make sure I'm happy with the results but it's frustrating with all the back and for shipping and waiting. It's funny reading there's new great revolutionary stuff coming. I'm not sure yet if I should regret the Zeus or not? I know companies will always be working on new stuff as they have to. Then regardless if it is or not, they have to try and hype it as the best thing ever whether it is or not. My goal with getting the Zeus was to solve the IEM problem hopefully for the next decade (or longer). Go the extra mile, get the perfect custom fit, go TOTL, go all out and get it done right?

I sold a pair of my over ear HPs, and when chatting w/ this fine group of people, one of the guys said he got some CIEM once, and they never fit right. He gave up and threw them in the drawer and forgot about them. I had no idea what a pain it would be. I assumed you get a good impression, and that was it. They'll pop out a perfect fit. I'm kind of curious if other people have a lot of fit struggles when they got customs? Or did they just work fine? If the next fix I get from EE isn't solid then I'm done with CEIM forever. In decades of using silicon tips on my IEMs I never struggled with fit/seal. I'm super disappointed in the custom route right now...

 

[Rin1990]

Sorry that your experience wasn't as good, phase0.

Personally, when I got into custom, it's been nothing but pleasant seal and fit for me. Granted, when I was listening to music while chewing vigorously like chicken meal or burgers, I never once got my seal broke. And even in those situations it only slightly move the seal apart which a small gentle tap to the CIEM would immediately fix, no problems for me.

But I understand that custom route has issues like these...guess I can only say that I am lucky to get a great seal in my first try.

 

[PinkyPowers]

So far I've had nothing but problems with the fit on my Zeus. I'm still waiting on EE. They did say they'll make sure I'm happy with the results but it's frustrating with all the back and for shipping and waiting. It's funny reading there's new great revolutionary stuff coming. I'm not sure yet if I should regret the Zeus or not? I know companies will always be working on new stuff as they have to. Then regardless if it is or not, they have to try and hype it as the best thing ever whether it is or not. My goal with getting the Zeus was to solve the IEM problem hopefully for the next decade (or longer). Go the extra mile, get the perfect custom fit, go TOTL, go all out and get it done right?

I sold a pair of my over ear HPs, and when chatting w/ this fine group of people, one of the guys said he got some CIEM once, and they never fit right. He gave up and threw them in the drawer and forgot about them. I had no idea what a pain it would be. I assumed you get a good impression, and that was it. They'll pop out a perfect fit. I'm kind of curious if other people have a lot of fit struggles when they got customs? Or did they just work fine? If the next fix I get from EE isn't solid then I'm done with CEIM forever. In decades of using silicon tips on my IEMs I never struggled with fit/seal. I'm super disappointed in the custom route right now...

That's a common story in the CIEM world. Every manufacturer has customers who just can't get a good fit. And every manufacturer has those who always get a solid fit first time. It's a toss-up.

I've had bad luck in the past. It can be real upsetting, I know. But my Spartans seem to work quite well.

 

[fiascogarcia]

So far I've had nothing but problems with the fit on my Zeus. I'm still waiting on EE. They did say they'll make sure I'm happy with the results but it's frustrating with all the back and for shipping and waiting. It's funny reading there's new great revolutionary stuff coming. I'm not sure yet if I should regret the Zeus or not? I know companies will always be working on new stuff as they have to. Then regardless if it is or not, they have to try and hype it as the best thing ever whether it is or not. My goal with getting the Zeus was to solve the IEM problem hopefully for the next decade (or longer). Go the extra mile, get the perfect custom fit, go TOTL, go all out and get it done right?

I sold a pair of my over ear HPs, and when chatting w/ this fine group of people, one of the guys said he got some CIEM once, and they never fit right. He gave up and threw them in the drawer and forgot about them. I had no idea what a pain it would be. I assumed you get a good impression, and that was it. They'll pop out a perfect fit. I'm kind of curious if other people have a lot of fit struggles when they got customs? Or did they just work fine? If the next fix I get from EE isn't solid then I'm done with CEIM forever. In decades of using silicon tips on my IEMs I never struggled with fit/seal. I'm super disappointed in the custom route right now...

Refits on customs is not uncommon, but many times it is a matter of finding the right audiologist who can make proper impressions. I think EE will offer as good support as any company you could work with. Getting a good fit and seal makes for a great experience, but I've pretty much signed off on customs because resale value takes such a hit, and I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm never going to keep the same iems for more than a couple of years at most.

 

[proedros]

all my ciems had great fit , everything starts at how good impressions you get

it's not the company's faults if your impressions are poor/faulty - they make do with what we give them

EE and @Jack Vang are great and if the problem is not on your initial impressions they will sort you out

cheers

 

[PopGenie]

So far I've had nothing but problems with the fit on my Zeus. I'm still waiting on EE. They did say they'll make sure I'm happy with the results but it's frustrating with all the back and for shipping and waiting. It's funny reading there's new great revolutionary stuff coming. I'm not sure yet if I should regret the Zeus or not? I know companies will always be working on new stuff as they have to. Then regardless if it is or not, they have to try and hype it as the best thing ever whether it is or not. My goal with getting the Zeus was to solve the IEM problem hopefully for the next decade (or longer). Go the extra mile, get the perfect custom fit, go TOTL, go all out and get it done right?

I sold a pair of my over ear HPs, and when chatting w/ this fine group of people, one of the guys said he got some CIEM once, and they never fit right. He gave up and threw them in the drawer and forgot about them. I had no idea what a pain it would be. I assumed you get a good impression, and that was it. They'll pop out a perfect fit. I'm kind of curious if other people have a lot of fit struggles when they got customs? Or did they just work fine? If the next fix I get from EE isn't solid then I'm done with CEIM forever. In decades of using silicon tips on my IEMs I never struggled with fit/seal. I'm super disappointed in the custom route right now...

Sorry to hear about your CIEM fit problem, I used to put the ear impression back to my ear to make sure both ears feel comfortable. I think EE can't do much for the refit unless you send a pair of new impressions. They only can try to guess and sand the finished CIEM by what you told which parts you don't feel comfortable, in which way you may lose the isolation as well.

 

[AxelCloris]

I've had fit issues with CIEMs before as well, even with Empire Ears, and almost every single issue I ran into was the result of poor impressions. Life lesson: don't go to a cheap audiologist for impressions just because they're cheap. Find one that has a strong history of impression making, even if it's more expensive. That or have the manufacturer take your impressions at a show. And make sure you have the audiologist follow the manufacturer's mold requirements. Using a different material than a manufacturer wants can sometimes have a considerable impact on the end product.