[imas69]

https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/y-cable-splitters-1

Splitters, I realise this is in the UK but may give you some idea of sizes

 

[Snow Blind]

Not to be "that guy" but i'm still struggling picking out wire for a headphone cable build and RCA connects.

4XX L/R build: (1) 1/4" (2) 1/8" - keep the wire intact pre Y-split and sleeve with para - some sort of Y-splitter (or heat shrink) - L/R leads both +/- same para sleeve. What i'm thinking:

• Headphones: Mogami W2799, W2893 or W2534... all seem popular. I know the W2799 with casing fits 550 sleeves. W2534 can probably be sleeved with 1/4" paracord. Anyone try this? Would then size down on the L and R lengths to 325? Not sure if that will fit both wires in each lead. Are these what i should be looking at? Anything better that would fit my application and requirements?

• RCAs: Mogami W2534. Any reason to go for anything else for short 6" or less Amp to Dac connects?

• Connectors: Neutrik PX or C series 1/4" stereo. No idea what i should get for the 1/8" into each L/R cup of the HE4XX... the narrow recess has me worried. Anyone know what fits in the Hifimans with 1/8" inputs? RCA plugs, again not sure what to get. Inexpensive or the plugs alone would be more than buying a set of PYST cables from Schiit.

 

[jmpsmash]

Thanks and sadly that version is all looks and no function, or at least intermittent function .

The wire i've used is 1m of https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wire/neotech-digital-balanced-cable-nevd-2001.html , with WTB RCA connector which is supposedly rated at 75ohm (which i'm not sure is possible in a connector)

I've just had a look at the manual too, which i next time i'll do before starting, but i'm still not completely clear what they're referring to as their only appears to be one Coax port and do they mean "signal" is attached to the following: "

Coax1 configuration = Tip and sleeve, Coax 2 configuration = Ring and sleeve

These are the 2 configurations i have tried with the mono version.working fine, whereas the stereo version creates the intermittent connection if you twist the plug in the socket.

Sorry i'm probably just being thick!

the coax port is a 3.5mm stereo plug port. 3.5mm stereo as in your photo, has 3 connections. the sleeve, ring and tip. tip is "signal" in your photo. ring is one next to it, and sleeve is closest to the cable.

if you connect a RCA to sleeve (ground) + tip, you are sending signal to the Coax1 (or yellow light) input.
if you connect a RCA to sleeve + ring, you are sending a signal to the Coax2 (red light) input.

not sure exactly why grounding the ring will cause intermittent connection. is the 3.5mm plug up to spec? would be surprised if not given the brand, however, I have had used 3.5mm that is actualy 3.3mm and it doesn't make a good contact.

are you using coax1/yellow or coax2/red ?

 

[BowWazoo]

Can someone tell me if this is the right plug for the Mr Speaker Aeon?

Can someone tell me if this is the right plug for the Mr Speaker Aeon?

https://www.conrad.de/de/p/hirose-e...ecker-gerade-gesamtpolzahl-4-1-st-749358.html

 

[teknorob23]

the coax port is a 3.5mm stereo plug port. 3.5mm stereo as in your photo, has 3 connections. the sleeve, ring and tip. tip is "signal" in your photo. ring is one next to it, and sleeve is closest to the cable.

if you connect a RCA to sleeve (ground) + tip, you are sending signal to the Coax1 (or yellow light) input.
if you connect a RCA to sleeve + ring, you are sending a signal to the Coax2 (red light) input.

not sure exactly why grounding the ring will cause intermittent connection. is the 3.5mm plug up to spec? would be surprised if not given the brand, however, I have had used 3.5mm that is actualy 3.3mm and it doesn't make a good contact.

are you using coax1/yellow or coax2/red ?

thanks this is really helpful. I’m going to sound dumb, but I didn’t realise the stereo 3.5mm doubled up as a coax ‘2/ red’.

At the moment I’m using the ‘yellow’ coax 1 input which is the port marked coax. I’ve reverted to mono plug with the rca signal going to the tip and the ground going to the sleeve. I had been using the stereo jack in the coax 1 port too, which I’m guessing explains the problem?? I had this plug wires with the signal>tip and ground >sleeve&ring (which i bridged with a piece of solid silver wire). So if I’m reading you right this should work if it were plugged into the stereo jack /coax2 red socket?? Thanks again

 

[-Hodor-]

Can someone tell me if this is the right plug for the Mr Speaker Aeon?

Can someone tell me if this is the right plug for the Mr Speaker Aeon?

https://www.conrad.de/de/p/hirose-e...ecker-gerade-gesamtpolzahl-4-1-st-749358.html

yes sir

 

[Christoph]

i have two newbie questions regarding the fit of the sleeve and the Y-splitter.

Fit of the sleeve:
To build a balanced cable with 22AWG (e.g. 22 AWG 6N high purity Silver plated copper overall diameter of 1.3mm https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/silver-cotton)
the total diameter of the braided cable will be 1.3mm x4 = 5.2mm
The Paracord sleeve ( https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/4-mm-paracord ) is declared as 4mm, but this is flexible and would fit (to get all four wires in), correct?

Fit of a Y-splitter:
2 cables have 1.3mm x2 = 2.6mm diameter, therefore a medium size splitter like this https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/medium-carbon-fibre-black
would fit, is that right?
Or do i have to go for a large splitter like this https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/large-silver-aluminiuim when i use the Paracord sleeve?

 

[chrisdrop]

i have two newbie questions regarding the fit of the sleeve and the Y-splitter.

Fit of the sleeve:
To build a balanced cable with 22AWG (e.g. 22 AWG 6N high purity Silver plated copper overall diameter of 1.3mm https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/silver-cotton)
the total diameter will be 1.3mm x4 = 5.2mm
The Paracord sleeve ( https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/4-mm-paracord ) is declared as 4mm, but this is flexible and would fit (to get all four wires in), correct?

Fit of a Y-splitter:
2 cables have 1.3mm x2 = 2.6mm diameter, therefore a medium size splitter like this https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/medium-carbon-fibre-black
would fit, is that right?
Or do i have to go for a large splitter like this https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/large-silver-aluminiuim when i use the Paracord sleeve?

I have 2 cables, 1 silver, 1 copper, with parts mostly from Cosmic. Both 4 core.

Y splitters: 1 is using the large Viablue, 1 with the same large silver one. It all fits fine. Not sure about smaller.

On Paracord, a more experienced builder than I recommended this size and it is what I used. I wouldn't really want to go smaller: https://www.paracord.eu/paracord/6mm-paracord-type-v

On the cable itself, I'd recommend the Neotech cable, Silver if your budget allows, else the copper is probably preferable to the other cable (silver plated) https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/6n-up-occ-neotech

 

[Christoph]

I have 2 cables, 1 silver, 1 copper, with parts mostly from Cosmic. Both 4 core.

Y splitters: 1 is using the large Viablue, 1 with the same large silver one. It all fits fine. Not sure about smaller.

On Paracord, a more experienced builder than I recommended this size and it is what I used. I wouldn't really want to go smaller: https://www.paracord.eu/paracord/6mm-paracord-type-v

On the cable itself, I'd recommend the Neotech cable, Silver if your budget allows, else the copper is probably preferable to the other cable (silver plated) https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/6n-up-occ-neotech

Thanks for your recommendations.

The difference between silver and copper cable is quite huge.
When i want to build a 6 foot cable, i have to order 7 foot because of the braiding srinkage.

For a balanced cable i need 7 foot x 4 = 28 foot which results in ~277 GBP (332 EUR) for the Neotech pure silver, silver STDST-2222
but only ~39 GBP (47 EUR.) for the 6N UP OCC Neotech, STDCT-22 which you mentioned.

As i have no experience with braiding, i think i will go for the cheaper chopper cable and when this all went well, then i would aim to braid a second silver cable afterwards.
Or is it save to braid an expensive silver cable as a starter?

 

[chrisdrop]

Start copper
I did too

 

[imas69]

i have two newbie questions regarding the fit of the sleeve and the Y-splitter.

Fit of the sleeve:
To build a balanced cable with 22AWG (e.g. 22 AWG 6N high purity Silver plated copper overall diameter of 1.3mm https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/silver-cotton)
the total diameter of the braided cable will be 1.3mm x4 = 5.2mm
The Paracord sleeve ( https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/4-mm-paracord ) is declared as 4mm, but this is flexible and would fit (to get all four wires in), correct?

Fit of a Y-splitter:
2 cables have 1.3mm x2 = 2.6mm diameter, therefore a medium size splitter like this https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/medium-carbon-fibre-black
would fit, is that right?
Or do i have to go for a large splitter like this https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/product-page/large-silver-aluminiuim when i use the Paracord sleeve?

The Silver cotton wire can just be braided in it's natural state and if you use it like that then the medium y splitter would be fine, paracord is not at all flexible unlike the
mdpc-x sleeve https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/mdpc-x-sleeving, if you look at their mercury cables you can see what that wire looks like braided without sleeving.

 

[Christoph]

The Silver cotton wire can just be braided in it's natural state and if you use it like that then the medium y splitter would be fine, paracord is not at all flexible unlike the
mdpc-x sleeve https://www.cosmic-cables.co.uk/mdpc-x-sleeving, if you look at their mercury cables you can see what that wire looks like braided without sleeving.

So would you recommend to build it without sleeve?
The Mercury cable looks nice.
I just wanted that the braided wire stays as it is... but when this also the case without a sleeve, then i would probably build it without.

 

[imas69]

So would you recommend to build it without sleeve?

I probably would as it's a nice looking wire, if you buy from cosmic cables then you should talk to him, he is very helpful and he would
probably even send you the wire braided if you want but if this is the case you should probably go for 8 wires rather than 4, which
headphones are you making the wire for.

 

[imas69]

The Neotech wire is very good but not as soft and flexible and you would probably be better off using some sleeve for that, but for any of the other
wire I would use au naturel

 

[Christoph]

... if this is the case you should probably go for 8 wires rather than 4, which
headphones are you making the wire for.

The cable is for the Fostex TH900 MK2 headphones, not sure if they are worth a silver cable.
From the pics of the cosmic cables Planet collection i see that all pre-build cables are made of 8 wires. I guess thats better to braid, right?

In general 8 wires double the price compared to 4 wires, for copper i'm okay, but for silver it would end up >600 GBP which is pretty much... (in my opinion).