DIY Cable Questions and Comments Thread

[teknorob23]

The wiring in your Picture is correct, check the cable with a multimeter to see what your resistances etc are (specificly the connection pin 2 -> ring)

i'm stuck at this with one channel :0

 

[-Hodor-]

oh I think I know what the issue might be:

That picture is only halfway correct. Its drawn correctly, however the labeling on the XLR is wrong:

Pin 1 is top left (ground)
Pin 2 is bottom middle (right channel)
Pin 3 is top right (left channel)

 

[killaHz]

The wiring in your Picture is correct, check the cable with a multimeter to see what your resistances etc are (specificly the connection pin 2 -> ring)

XLRs are a little tricky, because you don't know from the wiring diagram whether you're looking at the pins from the back or the front. And the TR(R(R))S ones can be a little tricky, too. So just always check with a multimeter.

 

[Wes S]

oh I think I know what the issue might be:

That picture is only halfway correct. Its drawn correctly, however the labeling on the XLR is wrong:

Pin 1 is top left (ground)
Pin 2 is bottom middle (right channel)
Pin 3 is top right (left channel)

That is correct, and exactly what I said a few post ago. Just go by the numbers in the pictures, regardless of their orientation.

 

[teknorob23]

That is correct, and exactly what I said a few post ago. Just go by the numbers in the pictures, regardless of their orientation.

so just confirm this is how it should be wired looking at the back of the plug?

Pin 1 is top left (ground)
Pin 2 is bottom middle (right channel)
Pin 3 is top right (left channel)

 

[Wes S]

so just confirm this is how it should be wired looking at the back of the plug?

Pin 1 is top left (ground)
Pin 2 is bottom middle (right channel)
Pin 3 is top right (left channel)

That is correct. I hope it works out for you.

 

[teknorob23]

That is correct. I hope it works out for you.

Briliant thank you and thank you everyone else too. I'll have another crack and hopefully report back with success Rob

 

[ElixBerd]

i've bought some wires in this shop at AE successfully: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/5003206
true up-occ litz wires. sure they don't speak English, but the wires are legit.

I seriously question the authenticity of these cables because you don't find such cables on Neotech site.

 

[teknorob23]

I'm seriously question the authenticity of these cables because you don't find such cable on Neotech site.

Agreed, but neotech do supply upocc wire to lots of third party companies. Still don’t think I’d go for it

 

[ElixBerd]

Agreed, but neotech do supply upocc wire to lots of third party companies. Still don’t think I’d go for it

They supply it to 3rd parties (as claimed by 3rd parties) but don't list it on their website? This seems kinda shady. Also, the headphone cable that is listed on Neotech site looks too dissimilar to the ones listed on AliExpress. All in all, I think I'll pass.

Any real UPOCC 7N copper cables out there? Here're a few that I could find, but didn't try:

https://forzaaudioworks.com/en/product.php?id_product=22
http://www.norneaudio.com/litzheim/...em-iem-full-size-aftermarket-up-7-n-6-upgrade

 

[teknorob23]

I’d avoid neotechs preprepared iem cable and go for there hook up cable in either copper, silver or silver gold upocc. I’ve tried lots of alternative upocc and nothing sounds as good to my ears as the neotech branded wire and the copper at least is pretty inexpensive where the 22awg is a bit of a sweet spot for hp cables in terms of sound, ergonomics and price.

https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wires/neotech-stdct-multistrand-copper-wires.html

 

[ElixBerd]

I’d avoid neotechs preprepared iem cable and go for there hook up cable in either copper, silver or silver gold upocc. I’ve tried lots of alternative upocc and nothing sounds as good to my ears as the neotech branded wire and the copper at least is pretty inexpensive where the 22awg is a bit of a sweet spot for hp cables in terms of sound, ergonomics and price.

https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wires/neotech-stdct-multistrand-copper-wires.html

Would it be too stiff if I'd want to make 8 core cable with it (24AWG)? Also, red sheathing sucks.
Has anyone wondered what wire is used in Brise Audio Yatono? Also the outer sheathing looks like a matte resin. I wasn't able to find such bulk cable online.

 

[teknorob23]

Would it be too stiff if I'd want to make 8 core cable with it (24AWG)? Also, red sheathing sucks.
Has anyone wondered what wire is used in Brise Audio Yatono? Also the outer sheathing looks like a matte resin. I wasn't able to find such bulk cable online.

I've made quite a few 8 x 24awg cores varying from 1.5 to 5m cables, and yes it is stiffer than a 4 core, but still not what i called stiff and i havent had any complaints from those who i made them for. This wire is teflon coated which is considered the best performing sheathing for hook up wire, but probably less important for HP cables. Pricing on neotech wire seems pretty consistent world-wide but i have found a few anomalies, where specfic wire is cheaper from certain sellers. E.g silver/gold 24AWG which is £56 per metre in the UK, is closer to £40 in Latvia and ukraine.

 

[hakuzen]

I seriously question the authenticity of these cables because you don't find such cables on Neotech site.

that was my first thought when saw these PE sheathed wires and couldn't find them at their site. btw, they have added some wires to their site (neotech) which i couldn't find before.. at the beginning, the only hook up wire listed in their site were copper, soc, and silver, with teflon or pvc sleeved, iirc.
then, i saw cables using same PE sleeved wires in boutique shops, like null audio, norne, forza audioworks, and others.
then, searched for these wires at distributors; hificollective, where i use to buy the wire, and chinese distributors (taobao). i found these wires in the latter, together with the known wires listed at neotech (same product page in many cases).

They supply it to 3rd parties (as claimed by 3rd parties) but don't list it on their website? This seems kinda shady. Also, the headphone cable that is listed on Neotech site looks too dissimilar to the ones listed on AliExpress. All in all, I think I'll pass.

Any real UPOCC 7N copper cables out there? Here're a few that I could find, but didn't try:

https://forzaaudioworks.com/en/product.php?id_product=22
http://www.norneaudio.com/litzheim/...em-iem-full-size-aftermarket-up-7-n-6-upgrade

LOL. these wires are not listed at neotech site either. why do you believe these are legit, and the same wires listed at a chinese shop are fake? just because they are chinese?

better do what @teknorob23 suggests. buy a wire which is listed at neotech site, and DIY yourself.

 

[ElixBerd]

LOL. these wires are not listed at neotech site either. why do you believe these are legit, and the same wires listed at a chinese shop are fake? just because they are chinese?

Where do I claim or ask that/if they're Neotech? I only spoke about 7N UP-OCC.

I feel that all this 7N stuff is pure marketing. Even Neotech claims only 5N on this site: https://www.hificollective.co.uk/wires/neotech-stdct-multistrand-copper-wires.html
This article pretty much supports this too: https://doublehelixcables.com/faq/

Does anyone have any firsthand experience with the aforementioned cables?