The r10 is what they call, "unobtanium"...
Almost impossible to find, let alone hear.
It sounds extremely extremely natural.
That is a trait the Denon has to some good amount.
But the r10 had two versions. I heard tbe bassier version, which I found very neutral and extremely natural...
Nothing like these new sony and Denon, which both have powerful bass.
The Sony leans toward the dark side, with more mid bass and low mids.
The Denon leans to the neutral/bright side, with more defining bass and more top end air, to my ears anyways.
The Sony does reach a high level of resolution, regardless how the Frequency response is.
Funny that a company makes a headphone that suppose to sound so great that they choose not to continue making this so called great headphone and decide to make crappy headphones. Thats so logical
Funny that a company makes a headphone that suppose to sound so great that they choose not to continue making this so called great headphone and decide to make crappy headphones. Thats so logical
Think it has to do with the housing of the R10. Don’t think chopping down a 200 years old tree to make the housing is acceptable anymore in today’s standards. The R10 is very genre specific and doesn’t do well with rock and heavy metal materials.
Think it has to do with the housing of the R10. Don’t think chopping down a 200 years old tree to make the housing is acceptable anymore in today’s standards. The R10 is very genre specific and doesn’t do well with rock and heavy metal materials.
I have no idea....but probably not the same. It has to do with the hardness of the Zelkova tree. Again, it’s genre specific and it sounds less force and very natural sound when everything is right.
I have no idea....but probably not the same. It has to do with the hardness of the Zelkova tree. Again, it’s genre specific and it sounds less force and very natural sound when everything is right.
A bit of both. I built my system around it. Got a really good ECP L3 amp that compliments it perfectly. I used to own several and now down to my last one. I prefer my HE90 more and also enjoy the HD800 a whole lot too. Again, I never said that the R10 is the best sounding headphones ever. I am posting here in this thread because I found the Denon D9200 to be a very wonderful headphones and like it better than the Z1R.
My main problem with the Z1R is the amount of mid bass present. It is always there whether it is called for or not. So it can be a good or a bad thing if you think about it. The 9200 is more balanced sounding which makes it a better headphones. I tried the Z1R even with the Kimber Axios cable and still doesn’t like it.
They really are 2 different signatures. None of them have a small soundstage for a closed back and none of them sound "closed in". Don't let the size of the soundstage be a defining factor.
I think the key differences have been described in the above posts and past pages.
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