Denon AH-D9200 - 2018 Flagship - Impressions Thread
Nov 21, 2019 at 9:22 AM Post #661 of 4,427
Got these for the 9200 and 5200 from Headphonecheck.com...no 7200 on their site

First time I've seen this site; buyer beware :wink:

AH-D9200 FR Chart



AH-D5200 FR Chart


Nice graph.
Sadly, the 5200 is mid-grade.
Very nice overall, but I feel the Sony z7 beats it.
 
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Nov 21, 2019 at 9:23 AM Post #662 of 4,427
The r10 is what they call, "unobtanium"...
Almost impossible to find, let alone hear.
It sounds extremely extremely natural.
That is a trait the Denon has to some good amount.


But the r10 had two versions. I heard tbe bassier version, which I found very neutral and extremely natural...

Nothing like these new sony and Denon, which both have powerful bass.

The Sony leans toward the dark side, with more mid bass and low mids.

The Denon leans to the neutral/bright side, with more defining bass and more top end air, to my ears anyways.

The Sony does reach a high level of resolution, regardless how the Frequency response is.
Funny that a company makes a headphone that suppose to sound so great that they choose not to continue making this so called great headphone and decide to make crappy headphones. Thats so logical
 
Nov 21, 2019 at 9:28 AM Post #663 of 4,427
Funny that a company makes a headphone that suppose to sound so great that they choose not to continue making this so called great headphone and decide to make crappy headphones. Thats so logical
Think it has to do with the housing of the R10. Don’t think chopping down a 200 years old tree to make the housing is acceptable anymore in today’s standards. The R10 is very genre specific and doesn’t do well with rock and heavy metal materials.
 
Nov 21, 2019 at 9:30 AM Post #664 of 4,427
Think it has to do with the housing of the R10. Don’t think chopping down a 200 years old tree to make the housing is acceptable anymore in today’s standards. The R10 is very genre specific and doesn’t do well with rock and heavy metal materials.
So they can replicate the internals but they cant get more 200 year old wood ? So how does those internals sound in 20 year old wood ?
 
Nov 21, 2019 at 9:42 AM Post #665 of 4,427
So they can replicate the internals but they cant get more 200 year old wood ? So how does those internals sound in 20 year old wood ?

I have no idea....but probably not the same. It has to do with the hardness of the Zelkova tree. Again, it’s genre specific and it sounds less force and very natural sound when everything is right.
 
Nov 21, 2019 at 9:51 AM Post #666 of 4,427
I have no idea....but probably not the same. It has to do with the hardness of the Zelkova tree. Again, it’s genre specific and it sounds less force and very natural sound when everything is right.
Ok , well I demoed it two times both versions. Think its more about the collecting than the actual sound.
 
Nov 21, 2019 at 10:14 AM Post #667 of 4,427
Ok , well I demoed it two times both versions. Think its more about the collecting than the actual sound.
A bit of both. I built my system around it. Got a really good ECP L3 amp that compliments it perfectly. I used to own several and now down to my last one. I prefer my HE90 more and also enjoy the HD800 a whole lot too. Again, I never said that the R10 is the best sounding headphones ever. I am posting here in this thread because I found the Denon D9200 to be a very wonderful headphones and like it better than the Z1R.
 
Nov 22, 2019 at 6:59 AM Post #668 of 4,427
purk can you recap carefully again why you prefer the denon to the sony?
 
Nov 22, 2019 at 7:01 AM Post #669 of 4,427
purk can you recap carefully again why you prefer the denon to the sony?
Or just get the Sony and it time you will know. What will you know ? You will know something is wacked.
 
Nov 22, 2019 at 7:06 AM Post #670 of 4,427
the reports claiming sony has a larger soundstage is making me hesitant. anyway i have a little time before i buy.:sweat:
 
Nov 22, 2019 at 7:15 AM Post #671 of 4,427
the reports claiming sony has a larger soundstage is making me hesitant. anyway i have a little time before i buy.:sweat:
Well it lacks sub bass so that can help it sound wider.
 
Nov 22, 2019 at 7:22 AM Post #672 of 4,427
sony or denon lacks sub bass?
 
Nov 22, 2019 at 7:25 AM Post #673 of 4,427
Nov 22, 2019 at 7:36 AM Post #674 of 4,427
My main problem with the Z1R is the amount of mid bass present. It is always there whether it is called for or not. So it can be a good or a bad thing if you think about it. The 9200 is more balanced sounding which makes it a better headphones. I tried the Z1R even with the Kimber Axios cable and still doesn’t like it.
 
Nov 22, 2019 at 8:01 AM Post #675 of 4,427
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They really are 2 different signatures. None of them have a small soundstage for a closed back and none of them sound "closed in". Don't let the size of the soundstage be a defining factor.

I think the key differences have been described in the above posts and past pages.

Get the D9200 :)
 

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