[therremans]

On tube rolling - I know this has been covered extensively, but i'm (finally) listening to a 59 Melz 1578. And 30 seconds in, I realize this is one of the best sounding tubes I've listened to, if not the best. I could probably end my 6SN7 tube journey right here. It is really a sublime tube.

I need to sell mine and buy another .

 

[Slade01]

I need to sell mine and buy another .

Why? What do you mean? I remember you acquired one some time ago.

 

[therremans]

Why? What do you mean? I remember you acquired one some time ago.

I didn’t share the same sentiment but I always had the feeling that mine wasn’t a good representative.

 

[JKDJedi]

I didn’t share the same sentiment but I always had the feeling that mine wasn’t a good representative.

Did that with a couple Bad Boys and had a half dozen 6080 graphited tubes (ok 4 of them, or was it 5.. ..but half dozen sounds better ) ..none we're the same and some faired way better.. keep searching, follow your heart.

(Red labeled Bendix slotted is what you want)

 

[Slade01]

Did that with a couple Bad Boys and had a half dozen 6080 graphited tubes (ok 4 of them, or was it 5.. ..but half dozen sounds better ) ..none we're the same and some faired way better.. keep searching, follow your heart.

(Red labeled Bendix slotted is what you want)

Are you peddling that unobtanium again?

I'm currently rolling '57 Fotons right now with the Russian Tube Tour. Color me impressed for the price.

 

[Slade01]

I need to sell mine and buy another .

Well I'd hang on to it - maybe it would be better in another amp or something. All I know is that finding a Melz 1578 in that year range is extremely rare these days. Or yeah, you will end up selling it for top dollar.

 

[HTSkywalker]

Well I'd hang on to it - maybe it would be better in another amp or something. All I know is that finding a Melz 1578 in that year range is extremely rare these days. Or yeah, you will end up selling it for top dollar.

I have an idea where all those Melz went

 

[Slade01]

I'm going to throw this question out here just for kicks. Has anyone rolled a newer Melz 1578 (e.g. 1979-1980) and knows how it compares to their older versions (50s-60s)?

And more so, has anyone every found any tube that was newer to beat out their older counterparts? Usually the general consensus is that the older tubes are better and have better magic-mojo. Has there every been a NOS type tube to buck this trend in your experience?

 

[Mr Trev]

I'm going to throw this question out here just for kicks. Has anyone rolled a newer Melz 1578 (e.g. 1979-1980) and knows how it compares to their older versions (50s-60s)?

And more so, has anyone every found any tube that was newer to beat out their older counterparts? Usually the general consensus is that the older tubes are better and have better magic-mojo. Has there every been a NOS type tube to buck this trend in your experience?

Good question. I've always heard the older the better…

 

[JKDJedi]

I'm going to throw this question out here just for kicks. Has anyone rolled a newer Melz 1578 (e.g. 1979-1980) and knows how it compares to their older versions (50s-60s)?

And more so, has anyone every found any tube that was newer to beat out their older counterparts? Usually the general consensus is that the older tubes are better and have better magic-mojo. Has there every been a NOS type tube to buck this trend in your experience?

Think you meant has there ever been a NEW type tube to buck this trend .. maybe, not likely. And tubes back then were made when gas was 25cents a gallon. So copper wiring galore.

 

[Mr Trev]

I'd guess one example that comes to the top of my head…
I currently have a Amperex orange globe 6dj8 (late 60s vintage) that I really like. Everybody tells me the older "bugle boys" are much better. Same for Telefunkens.
Don't think I've ever heard anybody say "screw the 50's models… the 70 version kicks ass!"

 

[Slade01]

Think you meant has there ever been a NEW type tube to buck this trend .. maybe, not likely. And tubes back then were made when gas was 25cents a gallon. So copper wiring galore.

Well, i'm trying to keep it Apples to Apples comparison. So as far as NOS tubes go. LOL. I know new production tubes like PSVANE will hold their own, and EH/New-Sensor are hit or mess miss depending. LOL

 

[Slade01]

I'd guess one example that comes to the top of my head…
I currently have a Amperex orange globe 6dj8 (late 60s vintage) that I really like. Everybody tells me the older "bugle boys" are much better. Same for Telefunkens.

6DJ8s - its funny if they tell you that older bugle boys are that much better insofar that they were developed in the very late 50s, so it's got a shorter age span. Though i'm sure the differences in construction among the brands become a big differentiator. When I used to roll 6DJ8/6922, while there were differences between the orange globe, bugle boy, and PQ types - nothing super huge in terms of SQ differences to me.

Don't think I've ever heard anybody say "screw the 50's models… the 70 version kicks ass!"

Me neither. 99% of the time "30s-early 50s" top "late 50s-80s" as far as most everything i've read for comparisons. I can understand this though as manufacturing and demand over time changes. Now, one of the tubes that nearly continues the similar quality throughout its lifecycle course to me is the Tung-Sol to Cetron 7236. I couldn't tell the difference between the two albeit the tube being a power tube for the DV.

 

[Mr Trev]

Off-topic post o the day: @bcowen spotted shopping at Walmart.

 

[jonathan c]

Off-topic post o the day: @bcowen spotted shopping at Walmart.

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