Darkvoice 336i & 336SE Tuberolling PartII
Nov 3, 2020 at 3:31 PM Post #4,441 of 14,543
You 'da man! But get the adapter from Deyan. I don't think I've yet seen a basing diagram that looks like this spaghetti for the A2293:

@SHIMACM and company - ok, so all the pieces are in motion. Just have to wait for things to come in (about 3-4 weeks) and we can get the A2293 party (re)started then.
 
Nov 3, 2020 at 3:36 PM Post #4,442 of 14,543
I'll see what he can do for pricing. Lol. if you can find anything on this tube, you're lucky. I can't barely find anything beyond that 1 pager datasheet that is mostly on the interwebs, which is sparse at best let alone a full pinout diagram.

Yeah, I had about the same luck.

https://tubedata.tubes.se/sheets/084/a/A2293.pdf

Found this on DIY Audio...

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Nov 3, 2020 at 3:41 PM Post #4,443 of 14,543
Nov 4, 2020 at 5:10 PM Post #4,445 of 14,543
A smaller and a more tactile toggle switch, has a more resistant click/throw to it.

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Nov 4, 2020 at 6:19 PM Post #4,447 of 14,543
Is the top one the original switch? And that red glow.... sick.
Yeah, the top is the original. The original wire used was decently thick stranded copper, so I kept it. I just applied fresh high grade heat shrink to the entire line.
 
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Nov 5, 2020 at 12:59 PM Post #4,448 of 14,543
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Sim, o topo é o original. O fio original usado era de cobre trançado decentemente grosso, então eu o mantive. Acabei de aplicar termorretrátil de alta qualidade em toda a linha.
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I opened my Darkvoice to do the MOD to disconnect the preamp output. Only when opening, I found that there is no wire connecting in the place that I would have to disconnect. Is there anything else to be done here?
 
Nov 5, 2020 at 1:10 PM Post #4,449 of 14,543
[QUOTE = "therremans, post: 15957630, membro: 537425"]
Sim, o topo é o original. O fio original usado era de cobre trançado decentemente grosso, então eu o mantive. Acabei de aplicar termorretrátil de alta qualidade em toda a linha.
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I opened my Darkvoice to do the MOD to disconnect the preamp output. Only when opening, I found that there is no wire connecting in the place that I would have to disconnect. Is there anything else to be done here?
The output wire runs to the output circuit in the middle of the amp. The input wire runs all the way up front to the volume pot.

Your photo is very dark but I think I see the black ground wire connected here. I circled it.

Unsolder this
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Or cut this:
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You may also pull off that hot glue and unsolder all three.. the output (L/R) + the black ground.
 
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Nov 5, 2020 at 1:13 PM Post #4,450 of 14,543
The output wire runs to the output circuit in the middle of the amp. The input wire runs all the way up front to the volume pot.

Your photo is very dark but I think I see the black ground wire connected here. I circled it.

Unsolder this
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Or cut this:
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You may also pull off that hot glue and unsolder all three.. the output (L/R) + the black ground.

Thanks for the answer. Just a clarification. Do I have to cut only where you circled or did you also mark an "x"?
 
Nov 5, 2020 at 1:16 PM Post #4,451 of 14,543
Thanks for the answer. Just a clarification. Do I have to cut only where you circled or did you also mark an "x"?
Cut the X, or cut/unsolder circle wire.

the X should contain all three wires.

send me some more photos if you want clarification as it was pretty dark. But if you follow the wires, you will be confirmed which is output and which is input
 
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Nov 5, 2020 at 1:21 PM Post #4,452 of 14,543
Cut the X, or cut/unsolder circle wire.

the X should contain all three wires.

send me some more photos if you want clarification as it was pretty dark. But if you follow the wires, you will be confirmed which is output and which is input

If I unsolder in the place where you circulated it is a very simple operation. In the place where the X is, I would have to release the glue and more wires to cut. Does desoldering only at the location of the circle achieve the objective?
 
Nov 5, 2020 at 1:22 PM Post #4,453 of 14,543
If I unsolder in the place where you circulated it is a very simple operation. In the place where the X is, I would have to release the glue and more wires to cut. Does desoldering only at the location of the circle achieve the objective?
Yes, easiest and reversible. Unsolder the circle (black ground wire for output circuit)
 
Nov 5, 2020 at 1:25 PM Post #4,454 of 14,543
Yes, easiest and reversible. Unsolder the circle (black ground wire for output circuit)

Wonderful! Well, I'm not at home now, when I arrive I will do the procedure and comment on the result with you. Thanks!
 
Nov 5, 2020 at 1:32 PM Post #4,455 of 14,543
Wonderful! Well, I'm not at home now, when I arrive I will do the procedure and comment on the result with you. Thanks!
I noticed yours came with a braided two conductor wire. Mine came with a cheap three conductor gray insulated wire (red, white and black). That I’m replacing with a short section of Mogami 4 conductor cable.

IMO, You might as well remove that hot glue and unsolder all three. Heat it a little with the iron and it will pull right off. It remains an easy reversible operation.
 
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