Darkvoice 336i & 336SE Tuberolling PartII
Nov 3, 2020 at 10:09 AM Post #4,426 of 14,518
Yes I did, didn't work out as I thought it would, and am not sure if these are drivers or power tubes, I tried using them as power tubes with a dual adapter from Deyan, didn't work out, only one channel worked. both tubes were good just that (it seems like) the power output on the Darkvoice doesn't like dual setups for some reason, that or these were driver tubes this whole time!

@SHIMACM are you up next to give this a go? Going to take the challenge? It would be quite the bargain if this works. There are adapters on ebay that advertise dual A2293 to 6AS7 for the darkvoice. So someone is trying to market it as such. I've been semi looking the 6AS7 rollers thread for impressions to some success, but not sure what amps they ran it on.
 
Nov 3, 2020 at 10:13 AM Post #4,427 of 14,518
Yes I did, didn't work out as I thought it would, and am not sure if these are drivers or power tubes, I tried using them as power tubes with a dual adapter from Deyan, didn't work out, only one channel worked. both tubes were good just that (it seems like) the power output on the Darkvoice doesn't like dual setups for some reason, that or these were driver tubes this whole time!
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With a plate dissipation of 15 watts, it's definitely a power tube. :smiley:
 
Nov 3, 2020 at 10:21 AM Post #4,428 of 14,518
I’ve had the gecs and adapter in my saved for later cart for months. I remember reading impressions that it sounded like a decent 6as7g but nothing that impressive. But I’d like one of us to make the opinion of how they sound.

i don’t remember where I read people’s thoughts on them or what amps used. It was just some searching. Maybe it was even in the drop Darkvoice thread. (This guy is pleased with them)
 
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Nov 3, 2020 at 11:52 AM Post #4,430 of 14,518
I’ve had the gecs and adapter in my saved for later cart for months. I remember reading impressions that it sounded like a decent 6as7g but nothing that impressive. But I’d like one of us to make the opinion of how they sound.

i don’t remember where I read people’s thoughts on them or what amps used. It was just some searching. Maybe it was even in the drop Darkvoice thread. (This guy is pleased with them)
Could've been the adapter that gave me problems, was really hoping it worked out, didn't want to push it any further with Deyan so just gave that project up. BUT .. if any of one here wants to take one for the team .... please do! I'm just as curious. 🙂
 
Nov 3, 2020 at 11:54 AM Post #4,431 of 14,518
Could've been the adapter that gave me problems, was really hoping it worked out, didn't want to push it any further with Deyan so just gave that project up. BUT .. if any of one here wants to take one for the team .... please do! I'm just as curious. 🙂

Was it an adapter Deyan made or chinese one?
 
Nov 3, 2020 at 12:02 PM Post #4,432 of 14,518
Was it an adapter Deyan made or chinese one?
I take that back... Going through my archive photos....it was a chifi adapter I was using!!
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Nov 3, 2020 at 12:18 PM Post #4,433 of 14,518
I also tried rolling dual 6BL7 tubes .. that too didn't work out.. 🤔 well hell... was it my Darkvoice this whole time!?
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It rolled well with one 6BL7 at half the power output. if you want a normal volume pot without modding your Darkvoice..just use one 6BL7.
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Nov 3, 2020 at 12:46 PM Post #4,434 of 14,518
I also tried rolling dual 6BL7 tubes .. that too didn't work out.. 🤔 well hell... was it my Darkvoice this whole time!?

It rolled well with one 6BL7 at half the power output. if you want a normal volume pot without modding your Darkvoice..just use one 6BL7.

Your amp was just trying to tell you that you're putting too much GE into it. One is one too many. Two is like putting straight water into your car's gas tank. LOL.

As far as the A2293. Screw it, I might just give it a shot. You know. For the teeeeeeeeeam.
 
Nov 3, 2020 at 12:55 PM Post #4,435 of 14,518
@SHIMACM are you up next to give this a go? Going to take the challenge? It would be quite the bargain if this works. There are adapters on ebay that advertise dual A2293 to 6AS7 for the darkvoice. So someone is trying to market it as such. I've been semi looking the 6AS7 rollers thread for impressions to some success, but not sure what amps they ran it on.

Since it didn't work on JKDJedi Darkvoice, I won't try.

There was a guy with an LF339 who liked it a lot.

It's a shame that Darkvoice refuses bargains.
 
Nov 3, 2020 at 1:04 PM Post #4,436 of 14,518
Since it didn't work on JKDJedi Darkvoice, I won't try.

There was a guy with an LF339 who liked it a lot.

It's a shame that Darkvoice refuses bargains.

Yeah right? I just checked the A2293, and running dual should just be shy under the normal 6AS7 heater draw. Should in theory work. I'll give it a shot, because I am very interested as well in this very idea as well of running a dual adapter on the power side Like you, I like the bargains as well!
 
Nov 3, 2020 at 1:11 PM Post #4,437 of 14,518
Yeah right? I just checked the A2293, and running dual should just be shy under the normal 6AS7 heater draw. Should in theory work. I'll give it a shot, because I am very interested as well in this very idea as well of running a dual adapter on the power side Like you, I like the bargains as well!

If you can tell me, because the risk for me is high, since my country's currency is very devalued against the Euro, making the tube much more expensive for me.
 
Nov 3, 2020 at 2:29 PM Post #4,438 of 14,518
I also tried rolling dual 6BL7 tubes .. that too didn't work out.. 🤔 well hell... was it my Darkvoice this whole time!?
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It rolled well with one 6BL7 at half the power output. if you want a normal volume pot without modding your Darkvoice..just use one 6BL7.
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That 6BL7 has the etched dots meaning it was truly made by GE. I'm surprised your Darkvoice didn't blow up, or at least throw up. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Nov 3, 2020 at 2:31 PM Post #4,439 of 14,518
Your amp was just trying to tell you that you're putting too much GE into it. One is one too many. Two is like putting straight water into your car's gas tank. LOL.

As far as the A2293. Screw it, I might just give it a shot. You know. For the teeeeeeeeeam.

You 'da man! But get the adapter from Deyan. I don't think I've yet seen a basing diagram that looks like this spaghetti for the A2293:

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Nov 3, 2020 at 2:59 PM Post #4,440 of 14,518
You 'da man! But get the adapter from Deyan. I don't think I've yet seen a basing diagram that looks like this spaghetti for the A2293:

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I'll see what he can do for pricing. Lol. if you can find anything on this tube, you're lucky. I can't barely find anything beyond that 1 pager datasheet that is mostly on the interwebs, which is sparse at best let alone a full pinout diagram.
 

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