[JKDJedi]

Thank you. I don’t see any new 1st gens available anymore but the 2nd will do.

Here's one, 200ohm planars.
https://www.headphones.com/products/audeze-lcd-4-high-performance-open-back-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones?variant=32088578195527&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google Shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8rT8BRCbARIsALWiOvRdAkNo9jLAYXf0QzcX6VYUQnXM6yj4BD7XE9Cf9wIUvXEmhgG-vtEaAp_9EALw_wcB

 

[therremans]

Here's one, 200ohm planars.
https://www.headphones.com/products/audeze-lcd-4-high-performance-open-back-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones?variant=32088578195527&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google Shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8rT8BRCbARIsALWiOvRdAkNo9jLAYXf0QzcX6VYUQnXM6yj4BD7XE9Cf9wIUvXEmhgG-vtEaAp_9EALw_wcB

Sarcasm? Haha but do any planars work well with tube amps like the DV?

$4,000 is quite rich for a headphone that is known to have some quality control issues. I guess you better hope you have a warranty. Cracking of the wood (why use wood??) rings..$500 to replace. A driver failed? $1,200 for a new pair as they are matched. Also $100 to replace the poor failed connectors. It’s like the exotic car (suckers!) of the headphone world.

 

[JKDJedi]

Sarcasm? Haha but do any planars work well with tube amps like the DV?

$4,000 is quite rich for a headphone that is known to have some quality control issues. I guess you better hope you have a warranty. Cracking of the wood (why use wood??) rings..$500 to replace. A driver failed? $1,200 for a new pair as they are matched. Also $100 to replace the poor failed connectors. It’s like the exotic car (suckers!) of the headphone world.

Sorry, and yes, I concur, planars are not a good mix with tubed amps, but you'll get some guys in here who swear by them. I had a member who Pm'd me telling me how great his was.. what could I say? Congrats? Now this guy I don't like so much but respect his reviews.. He's to honest.. He makes a blunt assessment between the HD6XX and the LCD-4. Check out the vid.

 

[therremans]

Link - doesn’t seem like they have good customer service either.

 

[therremans]

Sorry, and yes, I concur, planars are not a good mix with tubed amps, but you'll get some guys in here who swear by them. I had a member who Pm'd me telling me how great his was.. what could I say? Congrats? Now this guy I don't like so much but respect his reviews.. He's to honest.. He makes a blunt assessment between the HD6XX and the LCD-4. Check out the vid.

I easily talked myself out of the sennheiser hd800s at $1600. But I sometimes equate it to a well made guitar or something and I could maybe understand.

They are filling the top end niche and people will pay for “the best”.

The lcd-4 though..
I’m sure they sound great but 4 grand? Maybe they are handmade to order in the USA or maybe they take a couple weeks to produce? but I still wouldn’t pull that trigger myself. These companies may also spend so much in R&D that they have to recoup the costs. Down the road, the design breakthroughs tend to trickle down in their or other brands and allow the consumer to spend less.

I’ve never been to a CanJam but would gladly test them out for fun.

 

[JKDJedi]

I easily talked myself out of the sennheiser hd800s at $1600. But I sometimes equate it to a well made guitar or something and I could maybe understand.

They are filling the top end niche and people will pay for “the best”.

The lcd-4 though..
I’m sure they sound great but 4 grand? Maybe they are handmade to order in the USA or maybe they take a couple weeks to produce? but I still wouldn’t pull that trigger myself.

I’ve never been to a CanJam but would gladly test them out for fun.

I easily talked myself out of the sennheiser hd800s at $1600. But I sometimes equate it to a well made guitar or something and I could maybe understand.

They are filling the top end niche and people will pay for “the best”.

The lcd-4 though..
I’m sure they sound great but 4 grand? Maybe they are handmade to order in the USA or maybe they take a couple weeks to produce? but I still wouldn’t pull that trigger myself. These companies may also spend so much in R&D that they have to recoup the costs. Down the road, the design breakthroughs tend to trickle down in their or other brands and allow the consumer to spend less.

I’ve never been to a CanJam but would gladly test them out for fun.

But it comes with gloves! ( Too rich for me the same )

 

[sennfan83261]

Planars and low-impedance dynamics generally don't match well with OTL's like the Darkvoice. The former prefers a current-source over voltage, OTL's the Darkvoice being more voltage-dominated. The latter is negatively affected by the high output impedance values from OTL's like the Darkvoice. Anyways, my HE-6 and HE-500 just sounded wimpy from the Darkvoice. My Grado HF-3 sounded just flat-out wrong from the Darkvoice (mids are completely hollowed out). However, I am in Happytown with my high-impedance dynamics, HD6XX, driven by my Darkvoice*.

As for the LCD-4, I auditioned them once. Wasn't impressed.

*EDIT

 

[therremans]

Good input @sennfan83261. Darkvoice aside, has anyone heard an electrostatic setup? I have not but heard good things.

 

[sennfan83261]

Good input @sennfan83261. Darkvoice aside, has anyone heard an electrostatic setup? I have not but heard good things.

I tried a Stax SR-009S driven by a Blue Hawaii Special Edition (https://www.headamp.com/products/blue-hawaii-se), it was detailed, spacious, ethereal, and just plain lovely when listening to "Hotel California" from the Eagles. The timbre sounded a bit more on the artificial side though. However, when I switched to a drum n' bass track, the bass came out sounding like farts, lol. I definitely recommend anyone to try an electrostat setup once though. With the right song and setup, it sounds otherworldly.

 

[JKDJedi]

Planars and low-impedance dynamics generally don't match well with OTL's like the Darkvoice. The former prefers a current-source over voltage, OTL's the Darkvoice being more voltage-dominated. The latter is negatively affected by the high output impedance values from OTL's like the Darkvoice. Anyways, my HE-6 and HE-500 just sounded wimpy from the Darkvoice. My Grado HF-3 sounded just flat-out wrong from the Darkvoice (mids are completely hollowed out). However, I am in Happytown with my high-impedance dynamics, HD6XX, driven by my Darkvoice*.

As for the LCD-4, I auditioned them once. Wasn't impressed.

*EDIT

But it comes with gloves!! Ok I'll stop... Was teasing @therremans with the lcd4 thing..

 

[sennfan83261]

But it comes with gloves!! Ok I'll stop... Was teasing @therremans with the lcd4 thing..

Now thinking about it more, maybe the fact that the LCD-4 was a demo unit, and was undoubtedly passed around with ungloved, unclean hands, the sound was changed for the worse, . Surely, if I received the white-gloved treatment, then the LCD-4 would've sounded better, lol

 

[JKDJedi]

Now thinking about it more, maybe the fact that the LCD-4 was a demo unit, and was undoubtedly passed around with ungloved, unclean hands, the sound was changed for the worse, . Surely, if I received the white-gloved treatment, then the LCD-4 would've sounded better, lol

ROFL....

 

[sennfan83261]

Now thinking about it more, maybe the fact that the LCD-4 was a demo unit, and was undoubtedly passed around with ungloved, unclean hands, the sound was changed for the worse, . Surely, if I received the white-gloved treatment, then the LCD-4 would've sounded better, lol

ROFL....

Wait, I meant the LCD-4 receiving the white-glove treatment, not me personally (I wonder what that entails? ).

 

[therremans]

Wait, I meant the LCD-4 receiving the white-glove treatment, not me personally (I wonder what that entails? ).

Yeah, I knew what you meant. Haha it’s like receiving a Rolex with white gloves. Or if you look in the boot of a Ferrari, it has white gloves with the tire change kit... I’m more on a Seiko budget.

 

[bcowen]

My Jota amp came with white gloves. OK, so it was more than $4k. And it's not headphones. And this is subsequently totally irrelevant. Except the glove part.