Darkvoice 336i & 336SE Tuberolling PartII
Oct 18, 2020 at 8:56 AM Post #4,201 of 14,501
yeah agreed. Likely 40s. I wonder if he’s listing the equipment he pulled them from.

That's a good guess. I've never seen "Twinplex" as any part of a tube brand, label, or description before. OTOH, if the 6C8G wasn't introduced until 3 years later, it's doubtful a piece of equipment built prior to that would use that tube type...adapters didn't come along until HeadFi. LOL!
 
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Oct 18, 2020 at 1:48 PM Post #4,203 of 14,501
That's a good guess. I've never seen "Twinplex" as any part of a tube brand, label, or description before. OTOH, if the 6C8G wasn't introduced until 3 years later, it's doubtful a piece of equipment built prior to that would use that tube type...adapters didn't come along until HeadFi. LOL!
I don't think it is a tube brand. Rather it appears to have been a receiver back in the day:

https://worldradiohistory.com/Archi...t-Wave-Craft-Short-Wave-Radio-Manual-1935.pdf (pg. 16, using a "type 19" tube; also see Ken-Rad's tube chart starting on p. 234, no mentioning of a 6C8G in 1935).

https://redeyeprep.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/my-twinplex-receiver/
https://freckleface.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product627.html

Type-19:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_19.html
RCA's type-19 tube manual from 1933: http://www.one-electron.com/Archives/RCA/RCA-AppNotes/RCA 1933 AN-18 Operation Conditions for the Type 19 Tube.pdf
 
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Oct 18, 2020 at 2:04 PM Post #4,204 of 14,501
I wrote the gentleman on eBay asking about the twinplex. Sounds like an amplifier or something to me. Seems like Sennfan figured it out.

I guess the National Union date codes work like this. However, not sure if it’s always accurate..

First letter:
G 1943
H 1944
I 1945
J 1946
K 1947
L 1948
M 1949
N 1950
O 1951
Etc
 
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Oct 18, 2020 at 2:41 PM Post #4,205 of 14,501
Im looking into adapters from our bulgarian friend 7N7 to 6sn7, and a dual 6j5 to 6sn7. Can anyone help me understand the pros and cons of 2 driver tubes over a single one? Do they have to "match"?
Thanks for your help @JKDJedi
Not really any pros or cons in using two tubes over one. But you should stick with the same manufacturer/design. The triodes don’t have to be matched. Given the choice or while shopping around, it can be something to look for but I wouldn’t pay much more for it.
 
Oct 19, 2020 at 9:30 AM Post #4,206 of 14,501
Im looking into adapters from our bulgarian friend 7N7 to 6sn7, and a dual 6j5 to 6sn7. Can anyone help me understand the pros and cons of 2 driver tubes over a single one? Do they have to "match"?
Thanks for your help @JKDJedi
It helps a lot if they match, think it's ok if your off by 10-15 (maybe) I think your referring to the 6J5 tubes, they're not sold in pairs that often unfortunately. If you see them , grab them. The important thing with these dual setups, and probably the MAIN reason there has to be a dual setup (6J5 & friends) is that they are single triode tubes. (only one plate) The 7N7 and 6SN7 are dual triode tubes. (two plates). They do do double duty, left and right channels. The single triode tubes just do the one channel, hence the left and right setup, dual to single slot adapter. Like mentioned above find same manufacturer and type for best fit, roll of the dice but most of the time you get lucky. And hard to tell if they're not matched, ignorance is bliss.
 
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Oct 19, 2020 at 9:35 AM Post #4,207 of 14,501
I don't think it is a tube brand. Rather it appears to have been a receiver back in the day:

https://worldradiohistory.com/Archi...t-Wave-Craft-Short-Wave-Radio-Manual-1935.pdf (pg. 16, using a "type 19" tube; also see Ken-Rad's tube chart starting on p. 234, no mentioning of a 6C8G in 1935).

https://redeyeprep.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/my-twinplex-receiver/
https://freckleface.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product627.html

Type-19:

https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_19.html
RCA's type-19 tube manual from 1933: http://www.one-electron.com/Archives/RCA/RCA-AppNotes/RCA 1933 AN-18 Operation Conditions for the Type 19 Tube.pdf
What is Sherlock Holmes? Again...wow..amazing job @sennfan83261 ...Thank you! :beerchug::beerchug:
 
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:08 PM Post #4,208 of 14,501
Has anyone here compared their higher ohm headphones on the Darkvoice? 250/300/600. What do you have or recommend?

I am trying to find a second pair to my HD6XX (300 ohm)
 
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:19 PM Post #4,210 of 14,501
Beyerdynamic is a great complement to the HD6XX.
It is my number one choice. I do read a lot of love/hate with their sound profile. and some reviewers are quick to recommend other brands. But I don’t see many with higher ohm options. I also know that my software will automatically tone down the highs some, so I’m not too concerned about it being harsh. IMO the 1990s are overpriced at $600 and I will wait until they are on sale this fall. I emailed Beyerdynamic and asked about an upcoming deal.

Beyerdynamic choices offered in 600 ohm:
T1 2nd gen ($650)
DT-1990 ($600, ideally pay $400 or less)
DT-880 or DT-990 ($200)
 
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:22 PM Post #4,211 of 14,501
It is my number one choice. I do read a lot of love/hate with their sound profile. and some reviewers are quick to recommend other brands. But I don’t see many with higher ohm options. I also know that my software will automatically tone down the highs some, so I’m not too concerned about it being harsh. IMO the 1990s are overpriced at $600 and I will wait until they are on sale this fall. I emailed Beyerdynamic and asked about an upcoming deal.

Beyerdynamic choices offered in 600 ohm:
T1 2nd gen ($650)
DT-1990 ($600, ideally pay $400 or less)
DT-880 or DT-990 ($200)
We have a Darkvoice user here that loves his T1 @SHIMACM
 
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:22 PM Post #4,212 of 14,501
It is my number one choice. I do read a lot of love/hate with their sound profile. and some reviewers are quick to recommend other brands. But I don’t see many with higher ohm options. I also know that my software will automatically tone down the highs some, so I’m not too concerned about it being harsh. IMO the 1990s are overpriced at $600 and I will wait until they are on sale this fall. I emailed Beyerdynamic and asked about an upcoming deal.

Beyerdynamic choices offered in 600 ohm:
T1 2nd gen ($650)
DT-1990 ($600, ideally pay $400 or less)
DT-880 or DT-990 ($200)
Good info. Ive listened to the dt880-600ohm and the driver flexes a lot when it gets busy, i like my 6xx a lot better.
 
Oct 19, 2020 at 2:28 PM Post #4,213 of 14,501
Dekoni lambskin pads help. Widens the stage and tames the highs.
IMG_20200602_185324.jpgIMG_20200602_181339.jpg
 
Oct 19, 2020 at 3:20 PM Post #4,214 of 14,501
We have a Darkvoice user here that loves his T1 @SHIMACM

As JKDJedi said, I love my first generation T1. I already had the HD600, and I prefer the T1 by far.
 
Oct 19, 2020 at 3:29 PM Post #4,215 of 14,501
As JKDJedi said, I love my first generation T1. I already had the HD600, and I prefer the T1 by far.
Thank you. I don’t see any new 1st gens available anymore but the 2nd will do.
 

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