Darkvoice 336 + 336i Tuberolling [ tubes ]
Jan 14, 2009 at 9:27 PM Post #1,231 of 1,556
Jan 15, 2009 at 2:51 PM Post #1,232 of 1,556
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Originally Posted by Skylab /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I adore the ECC32/CV181 as well, but never tried it in the 336i (and of course it will not work in the 337 without significant modification to the amp).


Just for curiosity: Will the CV181 work in the DarkVoice, at least in theory?
And if it works will it operate on a voltage that alow for durability?
 
Jan 15, 2009 at 4:57 PM Post #1,233 of 1,556
Not sure - I have never tried it. I don't know if the DV can handle the higher current draw from the CV181.
 
Jan 15, 2009 at 11:03 PM Post #1,234 of 1,556
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Originally Posted by paara /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Just for curiosity: Will the CV181 work in the DarkVoice, at least in theory?
And if it works will it operate on a voltage that alow for durability?



I've read that in a majority of pre-amp applications the CV181 can replace the 6SN7, but it's always best to check with the amp manufacturer before trying anything.

I used the Mullard CV181 in my SinglePower MPX-3 with absolutely stunning results. It makes me want to try the CV181 with the Bada--once the Fitz-Max PH-12 "ULTRA" mods are completed!! : )
 
Jan 15, 2009 at 11:18 PM Post #1,235 of 1,556
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Jan 15, 2009 at 11:57 PM Post #1,236 of 1,556
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Originally Posted by pataburd /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I've read that in a majority of pre-amp applications the CV181 can replace the 6SN7, but it's always best to check with the amp manufacturer before trying anything.

I used the Mullard CV181 in my SinglePower MPX-3 with absolutely stunning results. It makes me want to try the CV181 in Bada--once the Fitz PH-12 "ULTRA" mods are completed!! : )



Same - the CV181/ECC32 sounds *awesome* in the MPX3. It's what I use as the driver tube. I bet 3 of them in your hot-rodded Bada would be awesome!
 
Jan 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM Post #1,237 of 1,556
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Originally Posted by Skylab /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Same - the CV181/ECC32 sounds *awesome* in the MPX3. It's what I use as the driver tube. I bet 3 of them in your hot-rodded Bada would be awesome!


Sky,
Don't tempt me! I'm still licking my wounds from selling the Darkvoice 337 and absorbing the monetary concussion of upgrading the PH-12. : )

I'd settle for one--just one--ECC32/CV181 (preferrably a Chelmer blackbase) when the Bada returns!

If someone has tried the CV181 in the Darkvoice 336i/336SE, I'd be very interested in your impressions!
PAB
 
Jan 16, 2009 at 1:35 PM Post #1,238 of 1,556
You like the Chelmer black-base better than the Mullard Brown base? I have a pair of Chelmer black-base CV181's that I bought as a back-up pair since they are a little cheaper than the Mullards, but I have not used them.
 
Jan 19, 2009 at 5:34 PM Post #1,241 of 1,556
Both of those tubes are for the power (rear) tube. The second one (the 6AS7G "ST" shape") is the better tube IMHO.
 
Jan 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM Post #1,242 of 1,556
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Originally Posted by ElephantTLK /img/forum/go_quote.gif
What about this combination? http://www.audio.idv.tw/shop/product...roducts_id=365 & http://www.audio.idv.tw/shop/product...roducts_id=687. Would be this good?


Those are both for the rear socket, and I prefer the JAN CRC RCA 6AS7G ($30) or Tung Sold 5998 ($40) for the rear - they are about the best you can get.

I had a GE, Sylvania, RCA and Raytheon 6080 and most sounded more SS than tube. So, they may be good for tuning the amp to certain phones.
 
Jan 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM Post #1,243 of 1,556
Ok thanks. What would you recommend for front tube from that store?

Edit: could someone help me with good combination from that store?
 
Jan 19, 2009 at 6:15 PM Post #1,244 of 1,556
Jan 19, 2009 at 6:17 PM Post #1,245 of 1,556
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Originally Posted by ElephantTLK /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Ok thanks. What would you recommend for front tube from that store?

Edit: could someone help me with good combination from that store?



I had the most experience with the Raytheon 6080 they have, which was not bad, but not as lush as the two I recommended and slightly less bass than the RCA 6AS7G (the 5998 has mucho bass). Those 6080 may not pair well with a nice VT-231 in the front (too bright?).

Of the 6SN7 type tubes they have, the cheap 6J5 tubes I have never tried, but they have many good Sylvania VT-231 that are one of my favorites, one of the best for the front. Open, airy spacious, detailed crisp, refined. I dont know which of the many to choose. I have kept one or two of these http://www.audio.idv.tw/shop/product...roducts_id=819 that I will not sell, in case I need it again, it was that good. (I believe I kept one Sylvania bad boy and two Sylvania VT-231 in case I ever got a used Single Power tube amp).

The RCA grey glass VT-231 is also excellent http://www.audio.idv.tw/shop/product...roducts_id=316

I heard many recommendations to get get a Ken Rad "black glass" VT-231, but theirs are clear, so I don't know how good theirs are.

So, the choices they have for front tube are excellent.
 

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