[Lohb]

After listened mojo 2 paired with my E3 at the dealer, I have to admit it is a good pairing for portability. E3 sound smooth and engaging. But since I have my Hugo 2, and once you heard E3 from Hugo 2, there is no way back. Not only makes E3 even more detailed, but also opens sound stage even more. Everything sound so real and coherent. You just wanna keep listening and don't wanna take it off. Yes I have to carry a brick in the bag. But who cares, your music comes alive. Yes I will still take a look for the powerful DAP from headfonics' recommendation in the future.

Will be my set-up exactly - but I wonder how Hugo2 would compare with Mojo2 + Romi modded BX2Pro with E3....
...price sphere maybe cheaper than H2 retail.

Instrument size was bigger than DX240 and modded amp8 card with Hugo2 when I tested against a decent (then) DAP.

 

[Waddiewadkins]

Also, can we squash the fallacy that price is related to quality? It's not. The price is the price and it makes you perceive a certain level of quality but it's not the be-all-end-all of headphones quality

I have Shure 840a and ive talked to reviewers who have all sorts of cans saying they are one the best they own.

 

[Daniel4IEM]

These two comments help me lean more towards E3. I love E3 in theory at least now because it addresses my biggest needs- open feel to sound, but isolated from the noise contamination of my surroundings, comfortable.

My only hesitation is that my ears will won't tolerate the closure, but in that case neither would the noire and would have to give up on the idea of isolation completely and I would pivot towards open back completely. Only way to find out is try them

Thank you both so much!

Just placed order!!!!

 

[Cecala]

Removed what posts? I don't mind questions directed to me but I don't appreciate assumptions or accusations.

I love the E3 and it's on my list to buy. I've been very busy the last few days so if you have issues with me, take it to DM please.

Replied to by PM and all good.

 

[P007]

Just placed order!!!!

Now delete your profile and just enjoy

 

[P007]

The pads are soft, but not as soft as Aeon. It’s early days, but they seem more robust. I was a bit annoyed by the Aeon pad deformation as well, as it was mostly on one side (maybe my head?).

Yes, #padgate was a thing with my Noire's as well (large part of why I sold) though the issue has supposedly been resolved with new pad design.

The pads on the E3 look like they should be better with a wider pad at the bottom and different stitching. It will be awhile before I can attempt buying these, so I'll keep or for issues, but hopefully not as this looks like endgame for me.

 

[vsg28]

Yes, #padgate was a thing with my Noire's as well (large part of why I sold) though the issue has supposedly been resolved with new pad design.

The pads on the E3 look like they should be better with a wider pad at the bottom and different stitching. It will be awhile before I can attempt buying these, so I'll keep or for issues, but hopefully not as this looks like endgame for me.

Pretty sure the pads are the same material as on the STEALTH Iinner side is suede and non-fenestrated on the STEALTH pads) and these will last quite a while based on my time with the STEALTH. Keep in mind also that I took one off for photos of the AMTS and that wasn't easy going on the pad material yet it looks like new back installed.

 

[Quadrangulator]

Pretty sure the pads are the same material as on the STEALTH Iinner side is suede and non-fenestrated on the STEALTH pads) and these will last quite a while based on my time with the STEALTH. Keep in mind also that I took one off for photos of the AMTS and that wasn't easy going on the pad material yet it looks like new back installed.

What are the inner dimensions in millimeters of these pads?

 

[bagwell359]

Full price buyers' remorse ?

They have been doing it for some years. Ananda, HE-6 SE, Arya, HEX, HEK SE...

I am surprised that they have kept the Susvara intact from that. Expect a Susvara II for $6k while they drop the "old" Susvara to $3k since they have no planars in that range. 6 months after that, one could pick up a fresh used Susvara for under $2k - and by then they'll move the HEK Stealth to $999 new and 6 months after used will be ~$550.

 

[chesebert]

I expect downward pressure on price to continue on HFM given the deepening deflation in China.

 

[Majuto]

I expect downward pressure on price to continue on HFM given the deepening deflation in China.

Chinese economy really has slowed down quite a bit. I have every now and then checked prices in Aliexpress and I think audiophile gear is about in European prices after taxes. Anyhow japanese economy has been deflatory for a long time, but japanese brands don't seem to have price reductions in western markets. E.g Yamaha YH-5000SE headphones cost in Japan maybe 3500 USD and in Europe. about 5700€.
Hifiman is a big actor in global audiophile market and somehow it's price drops have to radiate impulses to their rival brands pricing?!

 

[chesebert]

Chinese economy really has slowed down quite a bit. I have every now and then checked prices in Aliexpress and I think audiophile gear is about in European prices after taxes. Anyhow japanese economy has been deflatory for a long time, but japanese brands don't seem to have price reductions in western markets. E.g Yamaha YH-5000SE headphones cost in Japan maybe 3500 USD and in Europe. about 5700€.
Hifiman is a big actor in global audiophile market and somehow it's price drops have to radiate impulses to their rival brands pricing?!

Which brand has lowered their prices because of HFM?

 

[Waddiewadkins]

After listened mojo 2 paired with my E3 at the dealer, I have to admit it is a good pairing for portability. E3 sound smooth and engaging. But since I have my Hugo 2, and once you heard E3 from Hugo 2, there is no way back. Not only makes E3 even more detailed, but also opens sound stage even more. Everything sound so real and coherent. You just wanna keep listening and don't wanna take it off. Yes I have to carry a brick in the bag. But who cares, your music comes alive. Yes I will still take a look for the powerful DAP from headfonics' recommendation in the future.

Which brand has lowered their prices because of HFM?

Hey chesebert , didn't we have a thread going together ? Last I remember you were about to reccomend something..

 

[chesebert]

Hey chesebert , didn't we have a thread going together ? Last I remember you were about to reccomend something..

Was I？ If you absolute need closed, don’t care about hearing outside noise, have strong enough amp and don’t want to shell out mega bucks for some antique rare wood closed cans from 30yrs ago, if that’s you, E3 is pretty much the best choice based on sound.

 

[Majuto]

Which brand has lowered their prices because of HFM?

This particular question is out of at least my reach. I think of market in a wider sense, what new models are coming and what is their pricings. E.g DCA E3, maybe Meze Empyrean II, maybe Austrian Audio Composer. If all audiophile market prices were in upwards direction only, might their pricings been different. Or the newcomer models might be different. If sound quality defines audiophile headphones, you don't have to invest necessarily as much now as for a few years ago.
As long as living standards globally are rising, I'm not worried about the future of TOTL stuff. But for the large crowd of music lovers more affordable great sounding headphones are more than wellcome.