CHORD ELECTRONICS DAVE
May 13, 2024 at 2:22 PM Post #25,907 of 26,019
I don't know about the timbre, but checking/cleaning the lenses was mentioned as best practice nearly nine years ago, in the Mojo OG thread.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chord-mojo-1-dac-amp-☆★►faq-in-3rd-post-◄★☆.784602/post-12023147
Just good housekeeping … same as the occasional cleaning of all connections every year or two,
Something like Deoxit can’t hurt for metal to metal connections ..
Maybe using wooden Toslink plugs could improve “timbre” …. 😂
 
May 19, 2024 at 11:55 AM Post #25,910 of 26,019
I am currently using my Chord DAVE with the Blu Mk II in Preamp mode. I am connecting it via both RCA and XLR to two different headphone amplifiers. Can you take a look at the attached pic and confirm the current volume on my DAVE is accurate where it is sending out 2V via RCA and 4V via XLR?

I understand that the industry standard for RCA is 2V while for XLR it is 4V.

I was not sure whether I should be setting it as -2 or +2 on the DAVE.

Should I be changing the volume depending on whether I am using RCA or XLR? or is this current volume setting already the correct one for both RCA and XLR?

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May 19, 2024 at 12:07 PM Post #25,911 of 26,019
I am currently using my Chord DAVE with the Blu Mk II in Preamp mode. I am connecting it via both RCA and XLR to two different headphone amplifiers. Can you take a look at the attached pic and confirm the current volume on my DAVE is accurate where it is sending out 2V via RCA and 4V via XLR?

I understand that the industry standard for RCA is 2V while for XLR it is 4V.

I was not sure whether I should be setting it as -2 or +2 on the DAVE.

Should I be changing the volume depending on whether I am using RCA or XLR? or is this current volume setting already the correct one for both RCA and XLR?

Dave set on DAC mode (hold left/right buttons simultaniously) sets its volume at -3dB and i believe that means 3v output.

To get 2v it must be more like -5dB or so
I remember someone posted a list once

Edit: youre right with Blu also added you should do +3dB = -2dB
 
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May 19, 2024 at 12:39 PM Post #25,912 of 26,019
I am currently using my Chord DAVE with the Blu Mk II in Preamp mode. I am connecting it via both RCA and XLR to two different headphone amplifiers. Can you take a look at the attached pic and confirm the current volume on my DAVE is accurate where it is sending out 2V via RCA and 4V via XLR?

I understand that the industry standard for RCA is 2V while for XLR it is 4V.

I was not sure whether I should be setting it as -2 or +2 on the DAVE.

Should I be changing the volume depending on whether I am using RCA or XLR? or is this current volume setting already the correct one for both RCA and XLR?

I have culled this from somewhere a long time ago, maybe it will help? Also MScaler changes things by -3db.


Dave voltage output.

So I have the following conjecture about why most of the time, RCA is technically superior to XLR from DAVE.
If you’re driving your amp directly, let’s say listening at a volume level of -19dB via XLR so you’re putting 1V via XLR into your amp. If you’re using RCA, your volume level would be -13dB to get 1V into your amp. But since the -19dB signal and the -13dB signal all come from the pulse array DAC which has a fixed noise floor, you’re actually going to get slightly better SNR from the -13dB compared to the -19dB signal. Because the way the XLR generates the 1V signal is to take a -19dB 0.5V signal from the pulse array DAC and then feed it through the inverting amplifier to give you the 1V. So with XLR, you’re starting off with a lower signal with slightly lower SNR and then adding an inverting amplifier which may affect transparency.

Of course, this is purely from the DAC end. Depending on the amp, the signal from DAVE could be attenuated, altered, via RCA/XLR which could also affect SNR or transparency.

To me, the interesting question is for people who normally hook up their integrated amp (or headphone amp with volume control) to DAVE. Because if you normally just set DAVE into DAC mode (-3dB), then RCA would output 3V and XLR would output 6V and you might just adjust the integrated/headphone amp volume control to balance the higher voltage from the XLR and you might prefer the XLR sound. But to me, then, the better comparison would be to use RCA and set DAVE at +3dB so that you’re getting 6V RCA into your amp and compare that to -3dB at 6V XLR into your amp. We are of course assuming that your amp’s volume control is not going to clip a 6V RCA signal. I suspect in that comparison, given the right circumstances, the RCA output of DAVE would likely sound better than XLR.

Bottomline is that there are a lot of factors that come into play once DAVE is feeding an amp or preamp via RCA vs XLR. Which is probably why ultimately, people just need to test this with their amps if they have the luxury to do so.
 
May 19, 2024 at 2:58 PM Post #25,913 of 26,019
Dave set on DAC mode (hold left/right buttons simultaniously) sets its volume at -3dB and i believe that means 3v output.

To get 2v it must be more like -5dB or so
I remember someone posted a list once

Edit: youre right with Blu also added you should do +3dB = -2dB
I think since 3V is -3dB, 2V is closer to -7dB.
So with Blu2, 2V is closer to -4dB
 
May 19, 2024 at 3:29 PM Post #25,914 of 26,019
May 20, 2024 at 2:52 PM Post #25,915 of 26,019
Is there any other difference in the operating of DAVE between pre amp and dac mode than volume/voltage?
My amp and I prefer -13, then the volume knob on my amp has more room to move.
So I use pre amp mode.
 
May 20, 2024 at 4:15 PM Post #25,916 of 26,019
Is there any other difference in the operating of DAVE between pre amp and dac mode than volume/voltage?
My amp and I prefer -13, then the volume knob on my amp has more room to move.
So I use pre amp mode.
Yes, DAC mode is merely the volume setting :)
 
May 20, 2024 at 6:41 PM Post #25,917 of 26,019
Is there any other difference in the operating of DAVE between pre amp and dac mode than volume/voltage?
My amp and I prefer -13, then the volume knob on my amp has more room to move.
So I use pre amp mode.
no difference
 
May 21, 2024 at 8:20 PM Post #25,919 of 26,019
the great thing about the dave is you can adjust the volume basically to the needs of any amp
 

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