CHIFI LOVE Thread-A never ending IEM-Heaphones-DAP-Dongles Sound Value Quest
Oct 26, 2020 at 3:35 AM Post #26,207 of 31,833
Ah right of course, earbuds. Are you saying there's a link between iem use and hearing damage even using them at low volumes? Curious as i have some loss in the upper frequencies and mild tinnitus.

It's probably just anxiety/belief on my part more than anything :) it's kinda like when you're awake you can stop listening if it starts to hurt, but when you're unconscious...

Objectively, keeping to low volumes should be safe even over long periods of exposure, and being a frequent clubber/live concert goer is more likely to have negative effects than IEM listening (not that much of that is happening these days). But I'm not an audiologist nor an expert on hearing health so don't quote me on any of this! Haha
 
Oct 26, 2020 at 9:26 AM Post #26,208 of 31,833
I ordered the Shini s-520 and the Q170 on Ebay UK. They cost £4.99 each including postage. As luck would have it I got two s-520s and couldn't be bothered returning one of them. So I've got 2 x Shini s520, one gold, one red, and both working. So you are right. Listening to the gold one now. Very nice sound with enough of everything over the FR. Very sweet midrange in particular. For a fiver exceptional sound. They are very plasticky and don't feel substantial, but then buy a few pairs and it won't matter if you sit on one. Sound is way beyond cost. They fit over the ear with an ear hook and stay quite stable. That sweet midrange could serrve as a lesson for badly tuned in ear IEM's. Of course they are neither IEMs, or Buds and that's good for they present a different type of sound and very nice indeed. They have a 3.5mm jack and I run them at 60/100 volume single ended from my HiBy R5, so they need a little pushing.

I am glad for you this time no quality control problems. Soundwise the Q170 you didn't receive are more bassy than Q140 but not so much than S520 which I personally consider the best amongst the three Shini I've got. S520 is simply unbelievable good..
 
Oct 26, 2020 at 5:34 PM Post #26,209 of 31,833
CVJ-CS8 - 1 dynamic, 3ba hybrid. What a breath of fresh air after cleansing my palate of the bass bombs typical of my chi-fi inventory. Everything else sounds bloated after acclimating to the CS8 signature. What impresses me the most is how natural the ba’s sound, bringing high energy and detail without sounding too hot or sibilant. I really appreciate the different approach CVJ has taken hear. Don’t get me wrong, there’s still a place for my bass bombs, but it’s nice to have a variety of signatures and CVJ is providing something different that I’m really enjoying.
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Oct 26, 2020 at 5:53 PM Post #26,210 of 31,833
Can anyone recommend some sub $100 iems that isolate a lot and are small enough to sleep with? I was looking at getting a set of Mass Drop + but the reviews on their site are really concerning regarding durability and QC so i want to see if can find a chi fi equivalent, that way i can not care if they break.

I can sleep well on my side with the Urbanfun YBF-ISS014 and they're only $58.65 on their official Aliexpress store right now. They sit pretty much flush with the ears so they don't dig into your ear and mess up the sound when you lay down on your side. There's still reports of some QC issues but most reviews are coming up positive so how bad can it be? I think at that price they are just hard to beat.
 
Oct 26, 2020 at 9:31 PM Post #26,211 of 31,833
I can sleep well on my side with the Urbanfun YBF-ISS014 and they're only $58.65 on their official Aliexpress store right now. They sit pretty much flush with the ears so they don't dig into your ear and mess up the sound when you lay down on your side. There's still reports of some QC issues but most reviews are coming up positive so how bad can it be? I think at that price they are just hard to beat.

Thanks, they might be a good option. Are there any fit issues known with them like the BL-03s?
 
Oct 26, 2020 at 9:47 PM Post #26,212 of 31,833
Thanks, they might be a good option. Are there any fit issues known with them like the BL-03s?

I'm one of those who can actually get a good comfortable fit with the BL-03, but the YBF still fit me better. Most people that I've seen comparing them seem to say the same. Now I have not tried a hundred IEMs but so far they are definitely my most comfortable pair.
 
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Oct 27, 2020 at 5:05 AM Post #26,215 of 31,833
I will leave my impressions of the ZAX here, I posted it a week or so ago but haven't had chance to leave it here. As always, this is available in Spanish on YouTube and my blog, links in my signature.

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I have to start this review by saying that the KZ ZAX have been sent to me free of charge by a seller on amazon.es (I believe they are also on amazon.co.uk and maybe other European Amazon sites). The only request I have received from them is that I include the Amazon link to this product in my YouTube review. I have not been asked to write anything positive or negative, nor have any other requests been made, however, as always, I like to be transparent and point out that I have received this unit free of charge and do not need to return it.

I will aim to be as impartial as always in my review, but it is only fair that you are aware that this item has not cost me anything. Also, although the only request from the seller has been that I include the sale link in my YouTube review, I will also include it in my written reviews (both in Spanish and English) on the Acho Reviews blog.

If you are reading this review on a forum or other external site, you can visit the review on the blog to see the link here: Acho Reviews - KZ ZAX

I do not receive anything in exchange for any purchases that are made through that link, nor is the link associated with me in any way (I am not an Amazon affiliate etc.).

So, after all that, let’s get on with the important bit, the KZ ZAX.

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Presentation…

The presentation of the ZAX is a bit of a break from the normal KZ presentations. Usually KZ IEMs appear in a simple white box, in this case they have opted for a black box with a lid that opens to the left.

Opening the box greets us with the IEMs located in a foam cut out, with Left and Right printed underneath. At the bottom of the foam piece there is a metal plaque with the KZ logo embossed on it, along with “KZ ZAX”, a phrase in chinese (that I have no idea what it says) and “16 Units Hybrid Technology Earphone” underneath.

On the inside of the flap that opened there is a phrase that I have noticed for the first time on KZ packaging and would be handy for a lot of people to remember: “Don’t forget, the original intention of using earphone is to enjoy music”. I am not sure if this has appeared on any other KZ packaging and I have missed it, but I do think it is the most sensible phrase I have read on chinese packaging lately.

Lifting the tab to remove foam insert holding the IEMs, underneath there is the typical warranty card and instruction booklet, the cable (white in my case, with a microphone) and two additional sizes of silicone tips. This is not a lot of content in a set of 70€ earphones (at the time of writing this) in comparison to others that I have reviewed recently by brands such as Hifiman or Urbanfun, but if the quality is good then I am not going to complain about case candy.

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Build, aesthetics and comfort…

The shape of the ZAX is no different to so many other KZ models, nor is it radically different as far as aesthetics, except for the back plate.

The body of the IEM is the usual tinted but transparent resin, allowing the insides to be seen. The connector is again the usual protruding (type C?) connector that KZ have been using for a long time now (well, a long time by KZ standards) and the nozzle seems to be the same as others that I have tried over the past year or so.

As I say, the only visible change is with the backplate which, instead of being a solid plate, has grooves in it with meshing underneath, giving it an open back look.

I say open back “look” as the IEMs are nowhere near as open as the aesthetics would lead to believe, however, there is at least some kind of vent located underneath the plate as a slight blow through the mesh leads to hearing the driver flex, meaning that air is getting from the backplate to the drive (this is certainly not something I suggest anyone does, I just did it to see if it really did have any openness to it).

The included cable is the typical KZ cable and is identical to all other cables included with KZ products currently, with plastic connectors on each end. In my case the cable has an inline microphone and although it is not the best mic in the world, it is sufficient to have calls without the other person complaining. The cable is not the best but it is sufficient and does its job, there are far worse cables included with other products costing the same or more.

As far as comfort, well, it’s a KZ. If you have tried any of the KZ with this shape, such as the ZSN, ZSN Pro, ZSN X, ZS10 Pro etc. then you will know how they fit. In my case I find them comfortable enough for daily use, although they are not my favourite. If you have never tried a KZ in this shape, you can pick up a ZSN for less than 10€ and give them a try (and the ZSN is not a bad IEM for that price!).

As I have said, the build is no different to any other KZ and I haven’t had a KZ fail on me yet in the last two years or so. That doesn’t mean that they won’t break, it just means that with me personally, they have a good track record so far.

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Sound…

KZ seems to release new models every week and a search of KZ earphones will bring back dozens of models to choose from. Some of these are as cheap as 7€ and others, such as the ZAX, are ten times that price. While these would all be considered budget IEMs, the ZAX certainly aims to the higher end of their line up, it could even be classed as their “flagship” model. Therefore, we should expect a decent result from these IEMs.

In the bass category, there is plenty of extension down into the sub bass rumble area but it is not overly boosted. The bass is enough to feel the lowest of notes on tracks like “No Mercy” by Gustavo Santaolalla or “Bury a Friend” by Billie Eilish, but it doesn’t overpower everything like in certain other KZ models.

Kick drums and bass lines are held nicely together, not feeling loose and offering a very realistic timbre in the lower regions. Songs that have double bass to fill up their low end may feel a little overly present on occasions but electric bass guitars fit in quite nicely. In the case of electronic music, the bass has a decent rumble but without losing control and definition, keeping the “hit” intact, such as with songs like “Shot Me Down” by David Guetta.

In the lower mids, there isn’t really bass bleed as such, it is more of a ramp down from the bass that continues up to somewhere in the center of the mids, where it starts to ramp up again.

The V shape in the mids, between the low and higher end of the mids, is not overly pronounced but it can sometimes leave certain voices feeling lacking in the foundation of them. The ramp up to the presence area (around 3k) is steeper than the drop down from the lows, this does help with presence to some degree but voices that are over bass heavy backing tracks will sometimes seem a little overshadowed.

Vocal tracks that have plenty in the lower registries of vocals but don’t have any overpowering bass instruments are presented very nicely, such as “These Bones” by The Fairfield Four. I think the mids suffer more when vocals are backed by electronic music, when this is heavy on bass.

Up in the higher frequencies, there is little presence of sibilance on tracks that are more propense to it, such as “Code Cool” by Patricia Barber. It is not unbearable sibilance but does get a little harsh on occasions.

As we get higher, there isn’t really a noticeable drop off in the treble until it is past the 14k mark, which allows the ZAX to present plenty of air and openness, which is something that is appreciated. I certainly don’t find myself wanting for more treble but I also don’t find it overly bright except for that slight peak in sibilance, which I would rather tame down a little.

In the detail and definition category, I would say that these are the most detailed KZ IEMs I have heard so far. They are not miles better than the ZS10 Pro, my reference for detail as far as KZ, but they are noticeably better. They also don’t exhibit as much of the metallic ring that the ZS10 Pro does, something which is appreciated.

They are also one of the widest soundstages I have heard in an IEM, certainly the widest from KZ, and the placement of images is very well defined. I was listening to “Bubbles” by Yoshi Horikawa and both the soundstage and imaging was way superior to the ZS10 Pro, in fact, it felt superior to almost all budget IEMs I have reviewed so far.

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Conclusion…

Until now, my favourite KZ offering was the ZS10 Pro, an IEM that takes well to EQ (and needs a little to sound it’s best) and has great detail for a sub 50€ IEM. The ZAX is a step up from the ZS10 Pro and, while it could still do with a little tweaking in the EQ department, has replaced the latter as my preferred KZ.

Admittedly I haven’t tried all KZ offerings (I don’t think I have even seen photos of all KZ offerings) and there are models such as the ZSX that I have not heard, therefore I cannot say that the ZAX is the best KZ to date. I will, however, say that the ZAX is the best KZ offering I have heard personally so far.

It is over the 50€ price that I limit the “ultra budget” category to on the blog, which means it cannot replace the Tin T2 Plus as my favourite under 50€ IEM, but I am sure that in the near future we will see prices dropping slightly on the ZAX and it may even fall into that category. With this I am not saying that it is superior to the T2 Plus but it does offer certain things that the T2 Plus doesn’t, such as the spaciousness. I would have to do a lot of side by side listening to come out with a preference from the two but the ZAX would certainly rank high on the list!

At the current standings, it competes with the YBF-ISS014 and I feel that the ZAX is a better deal in the sound department than the YBF.

As I said, I received this unit for free so it wouldn’t really be fair for me to say if it is worth its price but I have purchased plenty of other IEMs at similar prices that I feel are inferior to this model. I am liking what I hear from the ZAX.

 
Oct 27, 2020 at 9:41 AM Post #26,217 of 31,833
Anyone know where i can get genuine Sony MH755's with reasonable or free international shipping from?
What I do lately is search local ads - this way I scored two genuine mint-condition pairs of MH750s with tips for just 5USD each, and some used MH755s with SBH20 adapters for not much more.
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 10:55 AM Post #26,218 of 31,833
What I do lately is search local ads - this way I scored two genuine mint-condition pairs of MH750s with tips for just 5USD each, and some used MH755s with SBH20 adapters for not much more.

You mean like Craigslist, local classified ads, apps like letgo, etc?
 
Oct 27, 2020 at 11:09 AM Post #26,219 of 31,833


i just want to put this here... been listening to this album with the T2+ and goosebumps all over, reminding my high school days :relieved:
 

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