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Oct 24, 2019 at 11:34 AM Post #20,446 of 31,833
that other hybrid earphone have the better graph

I put very little faith in those marketing graphs. Who knows what equipment they used, what tips and settings they used, smoothing, raw, compensation, etc. It’s ok for a super rough general idea, but it is no substitute for hearing the gear in person.
 
Oct 24, 2019 at 11:38 AM Post #20,447 of 31,833
that other hybrid earphone have the better graph

LOL, I was thinking the same thing, I would like to know what the "other hybrid" was. 7db rise in upper mid/lower treble vs near 15db rise. I am finding <10db rise is my preferred signature these days.
 
Oct 24, 2019 at 11:48 AM Post #20,448 of 31,833
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Oct 24, 2019 at 1:05 PM Post #20,449 of 31,833
The Hibiscus one is such a perfect harmonic curve. That it is too good to be real/true and not reality.

The other hybrid isn't technically better, though it may be for personal preference.

If you need a reference. https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-frequency-response-part-two
Firstly the graph has too much energy in the 5-8 khz region resulting in sibilance, the peak is centered at 2 khz instead of 3khz just like most chifi; so it rises too early and in theory should result in shouty mids. Also Tyll writes in that article that 12 db boost may be too much.

And the most important point of them all is that curve is not for earphones; that is for headphones.
 
Oct 24, 2019 at 2:55 PM Post #20,450 of 31,833
that other hybrid earphone have the better graph

Thats what I thought at first glance

Firstly the graph has too much energy in the 5-8 khz region resulting in sibilance, the peak is centered at 2 khz instead of 3khz just like most chifi; so it rises too early and in theory should result in shouty mids. Also Tyll writes in that article that 12 db boost may be too much.

And the most important point of them all is that curve is not for earphones; that is for headphones.

sibilances mostly come from 6-7khz. thats true, peak at 2khz and dip on 3khz is good for me, shouty high mids are caused by 3 khz peak, theory is just a theory, many TOTL iems have a little dip at 3khz to avoid shouty, as well as great tuning of the BLON BL03.


Anyway, graph looks good to me, except that too bold on mid bass and upper bass, ideally they should be lower and increase the sub bass a little bit more, and upper mids above a bit too strong they are making overall a bit v shaped. Just ignore it, i just being picky.
If anyone can help with real measurement graph, it will be nice
 
Oct 24, 2019 at 5:23 PM Post #20,451 of 31,833
The Aliexpress sellers jack up the price of some their stuff before a big sale (in this case 11/11), that's what I observed from the past few big sales. Dunno if it's to give a psychological impact when they suddenly discount their stuff during 11/11. But if u can wait till 11/11, I've seen the T2 at 23 bucks before.

That's what I thought. I've been procrastinating so long I might as well wait two more weeks.

from what i conclude, people perceived the T2 lack of bass(all of the Tinhifi also) usually contributed from the fitting not too secure. doing the bass vent mod would make the bass bloated a bit, so i personally would prefer to not do that, but instead do the eartip mod to reduce the treble instead



you might want to wait for the next sale on 11.11.it might go down a bit

I can't keep up with all those mods lol.
 
Oct 24, 2019 at 5:56 PM Post #20,452 of 31,833
So I have been researching replacement/upgrade cables. I just want something that won't always tangle up. It seems like there is too small of difference between .75mm .78 mm to make a difference what do you look for in cores 4, 8, 16 or do they even matter. It seems like
diameter or weight would be a better indicator of quality. Seems like prices are all over the place.

The only stupid question is the one unasked??

For example:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_9,searchweb201603_52

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_9,searchweb201603_52

Seems like they should be the same thing from same store with different color but $12.50 or $35.99.
 
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Oct 24, 2019 at 6:24 PM Post #20,453 of 31,833
So I have been researching replacement/upgrade cables. I just want something that won't always tangle up. It seems like there is too small of difference between .75mm .78 mm to make a difference what do you look for in cores 4, 8, 16 or do they even matter. It seems like
diameter or weight would be a better indicator of quality. Seems like prices are all over the place.

The only stupid question is the one unasked??

For example:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_9,searchweb201603_52

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...chweb0_0,searchweb201602_9,searchweb201603_52

Seems like they should be the same thing from same store with different color but $12.50 or $35.99.

What IEM is it for?
 
Oct 24, 2019 at 6:56 PM Post #20,456 of 31,833
Oct 24, 2019 at 7:00 PM Post #20,457 of 31,833
Got my Blon 03 today (could not resist all the... admiration of it).
First thing was to adjust to fit the QDC cable, as nice cables make for nice sound, right?
Used a primitive tool (some cosmetic polishing stone) as a challenge along the Flintstones lines :) (I do have few finer needle files but those projects should be more fun I feel).
The nice thing is that this adjustment to fit QDC connectors do not interfere with the original cable fitting - it does not become loose (and the original cable works for me in terms of fit, I just wanted to get balanced ones).
The grey tips are totally not working for me. Put larger ones (in blue) and while shallow they seals OK.

Here is a photo, sound impressions to follow
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Oct 24, 2019 at 7:39 PM Post #20,458 of 31,833
Oct 25, 2019 at 6:15 AM Post #20,459 of 31,833
Any recommendations for dirt cheap Chi-fi IEMs which are OK for wearing while sleeping? I.e., which fit snugly in the ear and don't project too far, so I could sleep on my side without them digging into my ears. Sound quality isn't actually that important, as I would be mainly playing sleep aid sounds (streams, ocean waves, white noise, etc). Not wanting these for regular use, but just for bad nights in noisy places.
 
Oct 25, 2019 at 6:31 AM Post #20,460 of 31,833
Any recommendations for dirt cheap Chi-fi IEMs which are OK for wearing while sleeping? I.e., which fit snugly in the ear and don't project too far, so I could sleep on my side without them digging into my ears. Sound quality isn't actually that important, as I would be mainly playing sleep aid sounds (streams, ocean waves, white noise, etc). Not wanting these for regular use, but just for bad nights in noisy places.

Sony MH750/755. Very small IEMs that don't project beyond the ear when inserted. Sound rather good too as a happy bonus.
 

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