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To get the announcements ? Damn!!! Must be a long wait4 more days.....
To get the announcements ? Damn!!! Must be a long wait4 more days.....
Perfection takes time, no hurry to spend my money, I rather spend it on complete product than a rushed one.To get the announcements ? Damn!!! Must be a long wait
probably longer than that, the show is cancelled at last minute, we are looking for alternative arrangement to debut the N8ii prototype.4 more days.....
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Live stream and online streamings ?probably longer than that, the show is cancelled at last minute, we are looking for alternative arrangement to debut the N8ii prototype.
Live stream and online streamings ?
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I “think” I know how the N8II will be - I don't blame you for that, you have to act economicallyWe have used live streaming to announce new products in past two years, when shows and event are not available. In our experience, live streaming works well with formal product announcement when there is a lot of explanation to do. Debut a prototype is mainly about experience, we don't provide very detail information or explanation at prototype stage because they are subject to change.
Hello Andykong,
in advance: I value your person very much - incredibly personable, really clever and highly competent and also exceptionally honest (thanks for that) - but this prospect is terrible "for me"
I understand that Cayin gives in to the general customer request pressure and makes him capable of streaming - but that means that you have to install all the necessary "crap" (Android, WiFi chip, etc.) and say goodbye the next high-end player.
Then for me it will be the new "Luxury & Precision LP7" - I could imagine that L&P will finally make it Gapless capable!?
I know that's a contradiction: Gapless also worsens the sound but I can't / won't do without it
“For me”, “natural” sound is the most important thing - “I” happily do without any “bells and whistles”.
I am aware that very few of them have ever heard instruments without amplification or have been involved in music productions - I was an artist manager and event organizer for many years, had a jazz club in Berlin for a long time with its own equipment (new Steinway grand piano, drums, etc.) and trained sound engineer at the mixer.
Since I personally don't have a preferred genre and I like everything that "sounds good", I had a daily changing live program of all styles of music and I know almost every instrument and know how it should sound
I want to hear the music as it was "intended" to be recorded and mixed.
The best sounding of a player, amplifier, headphones or loudspeaker etc. is "NONE"
I would never come up with the idea of “making up the Mona Lisa” just because I would then find her prettier - for “me” equalizers are rape tools
But “Everyone should be saved according to his own style”.
I just don't understand why you spend so much money on a high-end player and then feed or stream it with MP3s
For a better understanding, my preferred chain for home:
all genres SACDs - Cayin N8 - Cayin C9 - Cardas Clear with Pentaconn connector - Focal Utopia
(I don't like desktop devices at home either - I want to be able to move freely with the music system at any time - I didn't even open the box of my Focal Arche if someone is interested
The most important link in my chain is the music recording quality - the most expensive thing about all my hi-fi equipment is my SACD collection
Sorry, that turned out to be a long text and then translated with Google - is my first post actually belong to the silent readers
I “think” I know how the N8II will be - I don't blame you for that, you have to act economically
But how about, in parallel, with a minimalist, high-priced N9 - a high-end DAP without amplifier, with its own battery and two SD card slots, which, in terms of shape, can be perfectly stacked with the C9
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Andy ! As long as AK is following suit, you know that Cayin is having a superior marketing, designing, executive, and the whole systemWhat's the problem? You seems to be very negative regarding the N8ii and make up your mind that N8ii is not your cup of tea.
Necessary crap? You don't blame me for that? and you know Cayin gives in and say goodbye the next high-end player, base on the limited information we shared? Is this necessary? To put out all these negative comment on our not-yet-debut product, so that your superior design is justified?
Maybe N8ii is really not your cup of tea. We never plan to make a DAP that can please everyone. We didn't have that assumption when we develop N8, and the same will apply to N8ii. You don't have to feel bad to dislike N8 or N8ii, you are entitle to have your opinion. If you appreciate the product approach of Luxury & Precision, can I suggest you take your request and propose to them directly? I am sure you'll have a better starting point with them.
I very much regret the misunderstanding - it is certainly "also" due to my shameful non-talent for foreign languages and the Google translation I usedWhat's the problem? You seems to be very negative regarding the N8ii and make up your mind that N8ii is not your cup of tea.
Necessary crap? You don't blame me for that? and you know Cayin gives in and say goodbye the next high-end player, base on the limited information we shared? Is this necessary? To put out all these negative comment on our not-yet-debut product, so that your superior design is justified?
Maybe N8ii is really not your cup of tea. We never plan to make a DAP that can please everyone. We didn't have that assumption when we develop N8, and the same will apply to N8ii. You don't have to feel bad to dislike N8 or N8ii, you are entitle to have your opinion. If you appreciate the product approach of Luxury & Precision, can I suggest you take your request and propose to them directly? I am sure you'll have a better starting point with them.
I'm so sorry for this comment again - I should have contacted Andi-Kong personally somehow.Such overreaction from Cayin honestly... when you see a customer registering just to voice his opinion on the product, to me that speaks of his fondness of the brand. I know English is not the native language for both of you, but then Cayin should take extra caution before making any accusation. In addition, liking posts that indirectly suggest a loyal customer's wish as "gibberish" is just... bad image for a company.
I subscribed to this thread because I was excited for N8ii, but seeing this exchange is honestly disappointing.
Mate no need to be sorry. I used to be a "quiet follower" like you and English is also not my first language, so I think I understand your feelings when you wrote your first posts and how bad it must've felt when they were subsequently misinterpreted. Also, by none other than the company you've been rooting for.I'm so sorry for this comment again - I should have contacted Andi-Kong personally somehow.
Unfortunately, I have no experience with forums - I have only been a quiet follower until now!
I know a lot of quacks in all industries and I absolutely don't count Andi-Kong among them.
On the contrary, I consider his communication to be “exemplary”.
I consider the disclosure of design drawings until shortly before the disclosure of trade secrets to be unique and I value his honesty extremely - even if I feel personally misunderstood - but that is certainly "also" due to my inadequate ability to express myself in foreign languages.
I chose Cayin not least because of this extraordinary customer relationship.
Sure, with all the sympathy for Andi-Kong, the product was ultimately decisive and that speaks absolutely for Cayin
Sorry for this irritation on my part
Thank you - is good.Mate no need to be sorry. I used to be a "quiet follower" like you and English is also not my first language, so I think I understand your feelings when you wrote your first posts and how badly it must've felt when they were subsequently misinterpreted.
I mean your understanding feels good.Thank you - is good.
But to put it again unequivocally, I see the mistake with me - sorryWhat's the problem? You seems to be very negative regarding the N8ii and make up your mind that N8ii is not your cup of tea.
Necessary crap? You don't blame me for that? and you know Cayin gives in and say goodbye the next high-end player, base on the limited information we shared? Is this necessary? To put out all these negative comment on our not-yet-debut product, so that your superior design is justified?
Maybe N8ii is really not your cup of tea. We never plan to make a DAP that can please everyone. We didn't have that assumption when we develop N8, and the same will apply to N8ii. You don't have to feel bad to dislike N8 or N8ii, you are entitle to have your opinion. If you appreciate the product approach of Luxury & Precision, can I suggest you take your request and propose to them directly? I am sure you'll have a better starting point with them.